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  • madpenguinmadpenguin Posts: 2,543
    pansyface said:
    The Observer is a sister paper of The Guardian. The Guardian has, I think it’s fair to say, viewed Brexit as an unmitigated disaster.

    Here is a similar article from The Guardian.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/14/why-brexit-will-delay-uk-getting-vaccine-and-cost-more

    There is not even a vaccine yet and maybe the UK will be the ones to produce it.
    Who knows!
    “Every day is ordinary, until it isn't.” - Bernard Cornwell-Death of Kings
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    The problem with waiting for things to happen, is that those things might be multiple deaths.
    We must be proactive to deal with this.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • AuntyRachAuntyRach Posts: 5,291
    edited March 2020
    I have to agree with @punkdoc
    I have instructed my own father and in-laws to do just this. 
    It is awkward, annoying, inconvenient and stressful, but it is needed.
    I am setting up prescription delivery and shopping delivery for them all and have started doing video calling etc. 

    The driving point behind ‘delay’ strategies is that we aim to get a steady stream of infections rather than a surge which will overwhelm hospitals. It may be that if people self isolate now, they will just get it later - which may actually be worse than having it now when there are some critical care beds available this week. For the vulnerable groups though, they may have a slightly better chance after a period of isolation as the herd immunity will be around later this year. 

    Take me it easy folks. 


    My garden and I live in South Wales. 
  • SkylarksSkylarks Posts: 379
    Boots in Derby city centre today. As the shutters started to go up, the crowd started to walk forward. I watched from a distance. I’d avoid standing in a crowd right now.


  • barry islandbarry island Posts: 1,847
    Morrisons in Northampton this morning very busy at 10am no one was pushing, panicking, coughing, sneezing or touching their faces, I checked. There wasn't any cheap soap the one that I usually buy but we have some anyhow, didn't check for hand sanitiser but noticed there was a stack of very cheap toilet rolls looking quite forlorn in the corner. B&M store much the same just people going about their business, didn't get to Lidl to take advantage of the Sunday savers as there was roadworks and the roads looked too busy will try again tomorrow. All arrived home safe and well as much as we can tell didn't have a swab or temperature taken. 
  • YviestevieYviestevie Posts: 7,066
    Hubby went out for our normal Aldi shop and couldn't get on the car park so he went to Morrisons.  He said it was worse than Christmas.  We got everything we needed except Anadin and UHT milk.
    Hi from Kingswinford in the West Midlands
  • I listened to my local radio station this morning because they do an hours gardening program. 
    They  doing a stirling job of encouraging listeners to phone in with questions, something they do every Sunday but have started s ditty line. They give the first line and you complete a rhyming ditty. This is particularly for anyone who ends up self isolated. They are also encouraging everyone to talk to their neighbours, especially the elderly. My daughter and son in law have already stayed away because they both mix with a lot of people, she is a manager in a laborarory and he is a fireman, we talk on the phone every couple of days. I do not mind my own company but a lot of people really do get very lonely. 
    I think the last couple of generations are going to learn about community spirit, just like we did during WW1 and WW2. Everyone looking out for each other. It is going to be very difficult because we are going to lose a lot of much loved elderly family members which is so sad. I am particularly worried about my young grand daughter, at University,  studying nursing and a severe asthmatic. She is in the front line for infection, I just hope she is well looked after, whatever happens.

    The gardening expert on the radio made the point that if we cannot go shopping etc. we will have plenty of time to do more gardening!
  • barry islandbarry island Posts: 1,847
    I can't see the over 70's taking much notice of the government advice regarding staying indoors unless they are high risk, most people in their 70's don't think of themselves as being any different to over 60's.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited March 2020
    If the statistics show over 70s are more at risk than younger folk, then they'd be idiots not to do as advised.  Particularly when they realise that if they do become seriously affected by the virus, younger folk with their lives ahead of them are likely to be prioritised for treatment.  

    The majority of over 70s that I know seem to have more sense than you're giving them credit for  @barry island 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • AuntyRachAuntyRach Posts: 5,291
    The stats are suggesting that fatality rate for under 40s is 0.2%, 40-60s is 0.4-1.3%, 60-70 is 3.6%, 70-80 is 8% and 80 on is 14.8%.
    This is already old data and will change, but should be enough to persuade the over 70s to stay indoors. Surely. 
    My garden and I live in South Wales. 
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