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  • Jason-3Jason-3 Posts: 391
    edited March 2020
    I'm not moving any goalposts. I'm just trying to contextualise a point and I'm lost in your second point...

    Not sure if you misread my post. I'm unclear where any trivilisation was incurred or stated. To elaborate on my point, their is now plenty of doctors and researchers questioning whether or not the cause of death is been accurately recorded. Thus the descripency in certainly the German and even US figures compared to the UK, Spain and Italy

    All that I'm trying to do is look at the statistics and make sense of it all. All death is horrid. But I refuse to be so paralysed by fear that I'm worried about opening letters. Particularly when their is no scientific consensus on the level of risk. 
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    "Lies, damned lies and statistics! "

    Without testing of every single possible case plus a post mortem of everyone who dies, in or out of hospital, we'll never know so it's all a pointless argument.

    The plain fact is that isolating ourselves and taking sensible, calm and thorough  precautions about personal hygiene and cleaning surfaces are the only things that are going to stop this thing from spreading.   

    Stressing about anything and/or everything is counter productive.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • AstroAstro Posts: 433
    Omori said:
    We have to consider our mental health during this pandemic. A constant state of anxiety = stress which is not good for the body. Wash your hands, avoid touching your face (bloody hard), wear gloves/wipe down where appropriate. 

    A little levity...I’ve never seen so many damn people jogging!!


    The images couldn't be anymore true 😁
  • fidgetbonesfidgetbones Posts: 17,618
    Not round here. T'other half went to the local shop for some milk at 6.30 pm. The only car that passed him was a police car that slowed down and gave him a good looking over. Lidl was empty.  Only self checkouts open. He came back and put the bins out. Still no one or any cars around. We live on a main road.
  • Keep calm and wash your hands. Stay home. Stay safe.have a nice cup of tea and wait for the zombie apocalypse to blow over . I think we are all in danger of worrying ourselves into the ground .
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    I think this article will be of interest.

    How long does coronavirus live on different surfaces?

    Experts:

    • Dr Akiko Iwasaki, professor of immunology at Yale University

    • Dr Julia Marcus, infectious disease epidemiologist and professor in the Department of Population Medicine at Harvard Medical School


    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/31/how-long-does-coronavirus-live-on-different-surfaces
  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    mrmhf said:
    I’ve been following all the news, updates and advice, but no one has really been focusing on viral load, which is strange because it makes an awful lot of sense.
    They haven't been focusing on it because that article has been widely debunked as more social media pseudo-science. It is a theory that is being tested world wide but so far the results don't seem to support the theory.
    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • More annoying are the TV morning reporters both on BBC and ITV scare mongering and trying to gain points. They highlight things they have no idea on what should or shouldn't be done. Yes they should tell us about the poor people who have lost their struggle but try to lift the spirits show more of the people that have come out the other side and get them to stress to people the importance of self-isolating. Comparing us to German healthcare is wrong as their system is not the same as the NHS. Lets try to fight this not pick faults with what is being done Our media is awful at the best of times!! 
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited April 2020
    I don’t see it as comparing ... I see it as informing. As long as the information is as accurate as they can make it, then they’re fulfilling their remit to inform.  If we don’t know what’s going on elsewhere how can we make our own informed judgements?

    I think the BBC is doing really well at the moment, lifting our spirits with poetry, special performances of music and drama at the end of the Today programme, and they had the guts to continue the tradition of broadcasting an April Fools’ Day Joke despite some naysayers saying that April Fools’ Day should be banned this year. If you didnt hear it Listen Again to Tweet of the Day ... very funny 🤣 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    They were just talking about this on Radio 4.
    A simple app that asks some health questions - so they can model the spread - including people who feel well/unwell and haven't been tested for covid.


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