Bet theres an awful lot of people whose affairs have been put on hold.....or ended 😉 because of lockdown @pansyface
And then of course there’s some folk who got the sack because he hadn’t put his on hold .... another case of following instincts instead of keeping the rules eh? 😉
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Yep - that is what 90% of the population have been doing - staying put. Single mothers in cramped flats. Old people with no local support. Following the rules to stop some other poor ba****d getting the virus. That is why D Cummings et al made up the rules - to protect the public in general.
The rule didn't say:
If you think you or family member has the virus:
Lower Class:
1) You're f***ed - as you have no money to do anything, That'll teach you to vote tory.
Middle class:
1) Drive to you holiday home and stay away from London - D Cummings rules interpretations will see you safe.
Upper Class
1) Don't worry - you can fly out of the country to safety whenever you like anyway. But if you do decide to stay, D Cummings has some spins on the rules that will enable you to go somewhere safer than London anyway.
@SteveTu: good to see the old class warfare is alive and well. Obviously, you could teach all those deluded Tory voters a thing or two - after all, they are all so stupid that they need your particular brand of enlightenment. I was going to ignore so much on this thread. But Madpenguin seems isolated with reasonable points of view, that may not accord with yours. But each opinion is of value. I may not agree with what you (or others) say, but I will defend to the death your (and their) right to say it - without resorting to vitriol. Just be glad you live in this country and can express your views. Try living in Hong Kong or mainland China as it looks likely to become, treaty notwithstanding. Try cutting others some slack rather than going for the jugular. (lights blue touch paper and retires . . . . )
>>One thing I did notice when I moved away from Yorkshire was how unfriendly everybody appeared to be.<<
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I have never been totally convinced by the friendly North, diffident South argument. People are people, some are gregarious, others more reserved. It is also a fine line to tread between being chatty and being boring, exchanging views and being dogmatically opinionated, plain speaking and boorishness.
Opinions are also coloured by personal experiences. We were in Whitby not so long ago and my wife accidentally bumped into a chap on the crowded pavement. Because of her brain tumour Mrs Cotto is partially sighted and uses a white stick. “You want to watch where you’re going,” he said very gruffly and in a broad Yorkshire accent. Friendly northerners, eh?
By contrast, on holiday in Devon, we fell into conversation with a lovely chap from Yorkshire who was bemoaning the fact he had moved to the South West as he thought them such a dour lot. “Aye,” he said, “every time somebody laughs down here a donkey dies.”
And on the topic of friendliness and social distancing I will just say we are getting a lot more walkers through our village. Without exception they are respectful of the two metre rule and uniformly say hello and exchange a few pleasantries. I am just so grateful that the woes posting by others of selfish neighbours, noisy teenagers and general anti-social behaviour is just not something we have to endure. Come and live in Rutland!
Yorkshire blokes can definitely be a bit on the miserable side. I went to a Muse gig once in Sheffield because it had sold out in Manchester. I wouldn't bother again, most boring miserable crowd of any gig I've ever been to, including all the ones when I lived in London for three years.
I think the friendly/unfriendly thing is not so much North vs South as London vs the rest of the country. People are so on top of each other in London and so hurried all the time, I kind of get it. Your personal space and time is far more precious. It took me a bit of time to adjust back to 'normality' when I moved back.
The friendliest people in the country are in Liverpool and Manchester, parts of the North East are ok too.
I truly believe that the shocked reaction to Dominic Cummings' actions, and to his staunch refusal to apologise for those actions, hasn't got a lot to do with party politics or with class warfare. The shock would be the same, whichever party was in government. For me, the real problem is that Cummings is unable to see that if he, an architect of the lockdown rules, can break them by "putting his family first", everyone else in the country with a mind to do so, will do the same. What is wrong is not his concern for his family, which is understandable and laudable, but his lack of concern for those not in his family. The rules are to protect other people, not so much oneself.
I agree that we are all entitled to our opinions - but not that all opinions are of equal value... my opinion might be that social distancing is unnecessary in the fight against Covid, but that opinion is not a valid one.
Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
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Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Coronavirus aside, anyone fancy bathing in bacteria soup?😟
I was going to ignore so much on this thread. But Madpenguin seems isolated with reasonable points of view, that may not accord with yours. But each opinion is of value. I may not agree with what you (or others) say, but I will defend to the death your (and their) right to say it - without resorting to vitriol.
Just be glad you live in this country and can express your views. Try living in Hong Kong or mainland China as it looks likely to become, treaty notwithstanding.
Try cutting others some slack rather than going for the jugular.
(lights blue touch paper and retires . . . . )
I think the friendly/unfriendly thing is not so much North vs South as London vs the rest of the country. People are so on top of each other in London and so hurried all the time, I kind of get it. Your personal space and time is far more precious. It took me a bit of time to adjust back to 'normality' when I moved back.
The friendliest people in the country are in Liverpool and Manchester, parts of the North East are ok too.
I agree that we are all entitled to our opinions - but not that all opinions are of equal value... my opinion might be that social distancing is unnecessary in the fight against Covid, but that opinion is not a valid one.