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  • My sister lives in Miami.roll out is am absolute shambles.if your rich you can get it for sure
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Never trust a man with a pink tie
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • jamesholtjamesholt Posts: 593
    I had covid and recovered about 3weeks ago.  If I also get the vaccine what are the odds of me going to Chelsea this year or if Chelsea will even happen this year?
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited January 2021
    We’re allowed out to exercise once a day. MH went twice on the same day and he was filmed without a mask and not keeping his distance from other park users. 

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/national-lockdown-stay-at-home

    And the rules are about the maximum of what we are allowed ... they’re not targets that must be achieved, much less boundaries to be pushed. 


    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    I'm not sure the issue was to do with what was allowed per se. Isn't it again about the mixed messages? Boris comes on and peddles the now party line of  'assume you have the virus' (that he basically told people to ignore at Christmas) and then advises people to think twice before going out at all.
    '...It's safest to assume you have Covid, so please, really think twice before leaving the house this weekend....'

    Doesn't that then seem a bit naff if Matt nips down the park to play rugby? What should people then have 'thought twice' about and NOT done?

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  • madpenguinmadpenguin Posts: 2,543
    steveTu said:
    I'm not sure the issue was to do with what was allowed per se. Isn't it again about the mixed messages? Boris comes on and peddles the now party line of  'assume you have the virus' (that he basically told people to ignore at Christmas) and then advises people to think twice before going out at all.
    '...It's safest to assume you have Covid, so please, really think twice before leaving the house this weekend....'

    Doesn't that then seem a bit naff if Matt nips down the park to play rugby? What should people then have 'thought twice' about and NOT done?

    But going out for exercise is allowed,so there is nothing wrong with going to the park to play rugby.
    I don't see any mixed messages at all.
    “Every day is ordinary, until it isn't.” - Bernard Cornwell-Death of Kings
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    '...It's safest to assume you have Covid, so please, really think twice before leaving the house this weekend....'


    What did that comment from Boris mean? Going by your comment it means nothing. Surely if you assume you have Covid you don't go out - isn't that what Boris was saying? No point having a party line of '...It's safest to assume you have Covid,...' if you then just carry on regardless eh? So again I ask, what should you have 'thought twice' about before leaving home? Or was Boris only talking about...? I'm not quite sure what he was talking about if he wasn't telling everyone to stay inside unless they HAD to go out.

    Just heard Prati Pitel on the radio (radio 4) and she was asked about the UK death rate being one of the highest in the world. Do you not think that it's exactly this stupid type of mixed messaging that then causes people to carry on regardless, with the outcome that people die?



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  • madpenguinmadpenguin Posts: 2,543
    edited January 2021
    I go out everyday day and I always assume I (and everyone else has the virus) but I still go out for exercise as well as shopping etc.
    There are no mixed messages to me.
    Matt Hancock did nothing wrong.
    “Every day is ordinary, until it isn't.” - Bernard Cornwell-Death of Kings
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    What you do is up to you isn't it? You could mix at Christmas as well - nothing stopped people doing that. Most of what the gov has done has been advisory rather than backed by law - so you could do most things without them being illegal. But I ask again - what was Boris then asking you to think twice about before going out at the weekend? That you were dressed up against the cold, whether you had enough petrol in the car, whether it was going to rain? What was the point of Boris' comment if it wasn't advising people against going out unless they had to?

    I would guess that the reason Boris had made the comment was because scenes from parks and outdoor areas showed people congregating - much the same as the shots of the people on the seafronts in the first lockdown - and he didn't want repeats of that.
    This story https://www.northantslive.news/news/northamptonshire-news/northamptonshire-police-clamp-down-families-4894638 was repeated all over the country. Ashdown forest near me had super high levels of walkers and people driving to walk. Nothing against them doing that either was there as long as it was 'local'. Ashdown Forest said:
    '...Monday 11th January 2021

    Whilst the Forest has provided a place of sanctuary over lockdown, the impact from excess visitor pressure is beginning to have repercussions for the environment. Over the past few months a growing number of concerns have been raised to the Office regarding visitor behaviour. Indeed, the car parks are overflowing and the sheer number of cars are outstripping parking capacity.

    These unprecedented visitor levels are impacting the residents, commoners and local communities, as well as our emergency services. National Lockdown rules apply to Ashdown Forest. You must stay at home unless for exercise with your household or support bubble.....'

    Nothing stopping you exercising, but wasn't (isn't) the spirit of the local exercise to nip out for an hour 'locally' and stretch your legs? NOT to go to crowded areas to enjoy a nice weekend.


    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
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