You are starting to go too far now @andymorris. I respectfully suggest you take a little break from this thread. I think everyone understands the point you are trying to make.
How can you lie there and think of England When you don't even know who's in the team
Masks if worn properly protect other people from you, to a small but significant degree. The wearing of them is an altruistic act. They offer next to no protection to you. The masks that many people wear are literally worse than not bothering, and probably increase your risk to others. Face shields without masks, do not protect you or anyone else. Social distancing is far more important than the wearing of masks, and this is where the whole system is collapsing. Unfortunately many people who wear masks, seem to think that they can then not bother with social distancing. I obey the law, because anarchy has imo never been a good system of government [ this last sentence is totally irrelevant, but I felt like putting it in ]
In a nut shell that is where we are. Hope that is of some use @philippasmith2
How can you lie there and think of England When you don't even know who's in the team
@punkdoc Sorry to ask but you say the masks that many people wear are worse than not bothering. Which masks are you referring to?
I work on the self scan tills most of the time and am so tired of asking people to step back so i can get in to help.Many don't move at all and so every day for me is a terrifying experience,particularly as OH has this long covid they're now talking about.
I'm told often that 'what's the problem,we're wearing masks so i don't need to move'
I understand that wearing mask makes some people think that social distancing really doesn’t matter.
I understand that a poorly worn mask or one made of unsuitable material affords no protection to others.
What I do not understand is how a poorly worn mask or one of unsuitable fabric (which is?) can actually increase the risk to others. Is it because if you have the virus and you’re wearing such a mask then the infected particles gather on the fabric, you touch it, touch other things and people then touch what you have touched. And that, I assume, is worse than letting your exhaled air disperse naturally in the environment. Or is there another explanation?
Can anyone explain to me how you prove you have an exemption? Doctors are not issuing exemption proof neither is the government so people like myself with a very real reason to not wear a mask are unable to prove it. I have a badge from a charity site as advised but it has no legal standing
@debs64 I think the whole point of wearing a badge/lanyard is that you don't need to prove you're exempt.It's assumed that if you weren't exempt then you wouldn't be wearing either.I know in my place of work we're told we have no right to ask why people aren't wearing face coverings,just accept that they're not.
Many masks are just a single layer of fabric, this will not stop the passage of the virus.
@BenCotto, your explanation is spot on and this has always been my issue with mask in general. Watching people being interviewed, they seem to constantly be touching / fiddling with their masks. If they have the virus, that will then spread it to whatever they touch, and hard surface transmission is being increasingly recognised as a major issue.
How can you lie there and think of England When you don't even know who's in the team
There is no way to prove an exemption so luckily most people are happy to accept that others have a genuine reason. I have not been challenged. @andymorris maybe you should consider this. You may have caused a lot of people a lot of distress by your actions and nobody has to explain themselves to you.
@philippasmith2 Indeed. It is annoying though when people pull down thier face coverings once they reach the till. I understand that many of todays phones are using face recognition to open apps etc but please, put your damn face mask back on before i get to you!!
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I respectfully suggest you take a little break from this thread. I think everyone understands the point you are trying to make.
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Masks if worn properly protect other people from you, to a small but significant degree. The wearing of them is an altruistic act.
They offer next to no protection to you.
The masks that many people wear are literally worse than not bothering, and probably increase your risk to others.
Face shields without masks, do not protect you or anyone else.
Social distancing is far more important than the wearing of masks, and this is where the whole system is collapsing. Unfortunately many people who wear masks, seem to think that they can then not bother with social distancing.
I obey the law, because anarchy has imo never been a good system of government [ this last sentence is totally irrelevant, but I felt like putting it in ]
In a nut shell that is where we are. Hope that is of some use @philippasmith2
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
I understand that a poorly worn mask or one made of unsuitable material affords no protection to others.
What I do not understand is how a poorly worn mask or one of unsuitable fabric (which is?) can actually increase the risk to others. Is it because if you have the virus and you’re wearing such a mask then the infected particles gather on the fabric, you touch it, touch other things and people then touch what you have touched. And that, I assume, is worse than letting your exhaled air disperse naturally in the environment. Or is there another explanation?
@BenCotto, your explanation is spot on and this has always been my issue with mask in general. Watching people being interviewed, they seem to constantly be touching / fiddling with their masks. If they have the virus, that will then spread it to whatever they touch, and hard surface transmission is being increasingly recognised as a major issue.
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border