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  • raisingirlraisingirl Posts: 7,093
    Not being from a 'kissy' family or part of the world, it took an active force of willpower for me not to recoil from people who routinely invaded my personal space for mwah-mwah type greetings, once I started work and met more of the social set.
    I shan't be sorry if that disappears - still makes me uncomfortable - I'm all for hugging my relatives - but virtual strangers - nah.

    I read recently a theory that one contributor to the current increase in cases in the north is that those places were several weeks behind London in the 'first wave'. They didn't need a lockdown at the point the national one was introduced and the rate of transmission was still increasing at the time it was lifted. The whole policy was driven around the situation in London. There were reports at the time in the beginning of June that the R rate in the northwest specifically had just got over 1 then - and that was just as restrictions were eased. Could be a conspiracy theory but it does seem plausible.

    Down here in the southwest and in most of the more rural parts of the country, the infection rate is still low - that may be because this seems to be an urban disease (other places in Europe are seeing the same pattern). Or it may be that we are even further behind the curve and we have yet to hit the peak transmission.

    In any case, it seems likely it's going to get worse before it gets better.
    Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon

    “It's still magic even if you know how it's done.” 
  • BenCottoBenCotto Posts: 4,718
    Well done to you Andymorris. If that selfish woman thinks she’s going to get grief every time she gets on a bus while not wearing a mask she might change her ways. But when you have eaten the fruit of the stupid tree you can remain infected for a long while and often your entire life.



    Rutland, England
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    edited October 2020
    My friend challenged the driver on her bus the other day,  he said they are not law men, have no power to challenge passengers but can only ask, and are told not to refuse a fare.
    Those exempt things they were round their necks are no proof, you can buy them on eBay for pennies.

    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    It's probably to do with the risk of being attacked with no means of escape if he/ she challenges someone. The type of person who refuses to wear a mask is more likely to be the type that becomes aggressive when challenged. 
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Bus drivers are trapped in a little box.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • madpenguinmadpenguin Posts: 2,543
    edited October 2020
    B3 said:
    It's probably to do with the risk of being attacked with no means of escape if he/ she challenges someone. The type of person who refuses to wear a mask is more likely to be the type that becomes aggressive when challenged. 
    Bus drivers are behind protective screens...bus drivers have bus alarms ...bus drivers can contact garage..bus drivers can contact police
    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-french-bus-driver-dies-after-attack-by-passengers-who-refused-to-wear-face-masks-12026401

    https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/two-bristol-bus-drivers-attacked-4482184
    “Every day is ordinary, until it isn't.” - Bernard Cornwell-Death of Kings
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    If I were on a bus and another passenger wasn’t wearing a mask I would simply get off the bus. 

    If all the passengers who cared about their own safety did the same action would soon be taken. 

    One person cannot be expected to enforce compliance ... it needs concerted action by the majority. 



    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • LG_LG_ Posts: 4,360
    I doubt every other person on the bus can afford multiple bus fares for a single journey, not to mention the penalties for being late to work / distress caused to the person they might be travelling to care for, for example. Not that I'm blaming the bus drivers at all either, but while I too would probably get off a bus if I felt seriously unsafe, it's not that simple for everyone on a given bus to take concerted action.
    'If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.'
    - Cicero
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited October 2020
    I think it is that simple ... you either think that staying on the bus with someone who may infect you with Covid is a risk you're prepared to take, or you don't.  My guess is that if folk saw a rucksack with wires sticking out of it they'd get off the bus even if it might belong to an electrician ... if Covid is a danger to me, and I believe it is, I'd get off the bus ... whether I was late for work or not.   :)

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





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