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  • I gather the old Nokias are safer, they don't connect to the internet.  That's all very well, if you have the odd £400 lying around, Hubby retired last month, has been unable to continue after damaging his rotator cuff 2 years ago next month falling coming back from The South Downs, with dogs, he was only 63 a few months back, so not pensionable age
  • Klink, just been to Tesco for flu jab, young guy removed his mask to chat to his mate while stocking shelves, nope, the chat wasn't work related.  When it said shop assistants had to wear masks, (or face coverings) I actually imagined they would have to be around your mouth and nose, NOT your chin!!
  • Blue OnionBlue Onion Posts: 2,995
    My MIL has decided to take a guided coach trip from her home in West Sussex to Wells.. complete with charter bus and hotel.  She is 74 with preexisting health conditions.  Typically she is so cautious with her health.. very careful with her diet and making sure she does all she can to get the right sort of vitamins from food, etc.  And doing all sorts of other things she reads about or sees on TV.  But she's been going back to the gym now for a month or two, getting back into her social clubs with other retired ladies, and now this planned bus tour!  I can't follow her logic.. she'll eat gross salmon skin because she read that is where the best nutrients are.. but she'll also jump on a bus with strangers and travel because the gov't is allowing it - so it must be safe?!  I worry about her.. but my husband reasons she is an adult and can make her own choices.  

    How do you reason with your family (parents or children) about Covid risks?  
    Utah, USA.
  • AuntyRachAuntyRach Posts: 5,291
    edited September 2020
    That’s a difficult one @Blue Onion. Maybe show her one of documentaries about ITU during COVID and remind her that over 70s with health conditions almost certainly will not be offered critical care if they become seriously unwell. If the issue is that she thinks it is safe, maybe explain that just because something is “allowed” doesn’t mean it is wise. If just one person on that bus is positive, that air will be full of it by the end of the journey. The masks don’t totally prevent you passing it on, and certainly don’t prevent you from being exposed. 

    I am surprised that organised trips like that are “allowed”. Good luck there. 
    My garden and I live in South Wales. 
  • I give my opinion, explain what we are doing,  and leave them to make up their own minds ... but we make sure they realise that if we think they’ve been taking risks we will not be going within 2m of them or indoors with them ... and we mean it ... parents, adult children, whoever. 

    Because my son has been working recently, when he visits tomorrow to fix something on my car, he will not come indoors and I will be wearing a mask even outside, to talk with him. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • madpenguinmadpenguin Posts: 2,543
    My MIL has decided to take a guided coach trip from her home in West Sussex to Wells.. complete with charter bus and hotel.  She is 74 with preexisting health conditions.  Typically she is so cautious with her health.. very careful with her diet and making sure she does all she can to get the right sort of vitamins from food, etc.  And doing all sorts of other things she reads about or sees on TV.  But she's been going back to the gym now for a month or two, getting back into her social clubs with other retired ladies, and now this planned bus tour!  I can't follow her logic.. she'll eat gross salmon skin because she read that is where the best nutrients are.. but she'll also jump on a bus with strangers and travel because the gov't is allowing it - so it must be safe?!  I worry about her.. but my husband reasons she is an adult and can make her own choices.  

    How do you reason with your family (parents or children) about Covid risks?  

    Maybe your MIL just wants to get on with living,not holed up somewhere to be 'safe'.
    My Mum is 86 and she has been climbing the walls with boredom and in tears a lot of the time.
    She misses all her friends at church,clubs/societies,quiz nights at the pub and our Saturday night Canasta with some friends.
    This year she has missed out on a Grandchild's 21st Birthday,another Grandchild's Wedding,her ex-husband's 90th Birthday (my Dad who lives in France),Daughters and Son in Laws 60th Birthdays and a coach day trip to a garden for my birthday.
    I missed all these things too!
    We have now decided to go out on a regular basis,coffee shop, grocery shopping,trips on the bus etc.
    We just take precautions and get on with it.
    “Every day is ordinary, until it isn't.” - Bernard Cornwell-Death of Kings
  • KlinkKlink Posts: 261
    Klink, just been to Tesco for flu jab, young guy removed his mask to chat to his mate while stocking shelves, nope, the chat wasn't work related.  When it said shop assistants had to wear masks, (or face coverings) I actually imagined they would have to be around your mouth and nose, NOT your chin!!

    I work in a supermarket and it's frightening the number of people not taking this pandemic seriously.It is difficult for staff to maintain social distancing when clocking in/taking breaks etc.but some people seem to totally ignore the risks.
    I had what i believe to be Covid in November.I've never felt so ill in a long long time.My OH had it in December through January and was hospitalised,all before it was recognised for what it now is.OH is still having breathing difficulties and has reduced lung capacity.It's not to be taken lightly but as most people say they don't know anyone who's had it, i think its a long shot.
  • chickychicky Posts: 10,410
    AuntyRach said:
    remind her that over 70s with health conditions almost certainly will not be offered critical care if they become seriously unwell.
    Wow 😱. Is that really how we stopped the NHS becoming overwhelmed last spring?  Call me naive, but I genuinely had no idea that this was the case.  How many of those poor souls would have recovered with critical care provision?
  • KlinkKlink Posts: 261
    So it's just been announced that here in the northeast we can't meet up in any indoor venue, yet we can all still go shopping.Watch out for more gathering in the aisles!Madness!
  • LG_LG_ Posts: 4,360
    chicky said:
    AuntyRach said:
    remind her that over 70s with health conditions almost certainly will not be offered critical care if they become seriously unwell.
    Wow 😱. Is that really how we stopped the NHS becoming overwhelmed last spring?  Call me naive, but I genuinely had no idea that this was the case.  How many of those poor souls would have recovered with critical care provision?
    The first, second and last question we were asked when my brother was admitted to hospital was about DNR. It was clear from the outset that he would not be ventilated.
    'If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.'
    - Cicero
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