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  • Interesting, @raisingirl.  It says "interior use only", which would rule it out for external insulation, I guess, but we weren't given it as an option in the extension...   :/
    Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    Interesting, @raisingirl.  It says "interior use only", which would rule it out for external insulation, I guess, but we weren't given it as an option in the extension...   :/
    Take a look at the pdf of the brochure under data sheets and there should be a product called Thermo Facade which is their external insulation system.

    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • Thanks, @wild edges - hadn't got that far...  we asked the structural engineer and builder to come up with the "greenest" building solutions within our budget, but I now think we should have been less naive and asked more questions.   :(
    Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    Any money spent on a holiday can be expressed as a proportion of annual income.  I expect 15k is a very reasonable proportion of Bojo's income and for me the more important question is what strings are attached if someone else paid?   

    I am quite happy to have UK and Belgian friends here to visit - and even Oz friends recently.  Oter than transport here it's free for them and we get to see our friends without having to leave home.  Not quite the same thing tho as a PM or other person in power accepting free hols.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • raisingirlraisingirl Posts: 7,093

    If this government is seriously trying to tell us that they understand the populace and what matters to us, then they would appear to have missed the plot somehow.  
    I just don't believe that anyone who voted for Boris thought he is an Everyman. He really couldn't be much 'posher'. And I doubt there'd be nearly as much hoo-hah if he HAD paid for it himself (and he could certainly afford to). As Dove says, it's the politics of the 'debt' that is a concern. But anyway, 'this government' has been in power for a decade. Real change is unlikely.
    Thanks, @wild edges - hadn't got that far...  we asked the structural engineer and builder to come up with the "greenest" building solutions within our budget, but I now think we should have been less naive and asked more questions.   :(
    The whole industry is currently wrestling with the thorny problem of whether to use more plastic insulation to reduce fuel burned for heating. The 'greener' insulants are universally less insulating than the plastic ones at the moment (for the same thickness) and also are generally less flammable. So the combination of the climate agenda and the fall out from Grenfell has brought insulation choices far more into focus than a couple of years ago. 

    In a situation like yours where the thickness of insulation you can use is probably limited, greener may not be greener in energy terms. Avoiding the microplastics blowing round your garden is a different issue. They possibly didn't grasp the question you were asking. Though, having said that, structural engineers don't really know about insulation and builders generally stick to what they know so they may have just not known how to answer your question.
    Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon

    “It's still magic even if you know how it's done.” 
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    The latest I have read is that somebody "facilitated" the holiday.  If that simply means they were in a position to get a discount which Boris couldn't get directly, I see nothing wrong with that, assuming Boris then paid him back. 
    Could anybody here truly claim they would refuse such an offer from a friend?
    By the way, I'm no great fan of Boris, simply sick of the press always trying to put out negative stories about all and sundry.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Knighthoods go in one direction - holidays in the other.
    The trouble with holidays is that they're less easy to hide than other payments in kind
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    edited February 2020
    @KT53 - since Boris is himself a journalist, and has been sacked from at least one paper for writing lies, I don't think he has a leg to stand on when it comes to being the subject of inaccurate or creative or judgemental reporting by others.

    He was a very entertaining mayor of London but such antics are not at all endearing in a PM.  He needs to learn about and embrace integrity.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    It's not how things ARE which is important, it's how they appear. 

    Boris is just reverting to type. Spoilt Public schoolboy. Rules are just for other people and if you don't get what you want, throw your toys out of the pram and have a tantrum and scream for Nanny, ( or Dominic as he's known )
    He's either a bully, a dictator or coward or some mix of all three.
    Devon.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    Hostafan1 said:
    He's either a bully, a dictator or coward or some mix of all three.
    You forgot the all important prefix "rich" - we're stuck with him anyway - not much you can do really except wait and see.
    I don't care how much money he has, or hasn't , but any of the other characteristics are very worrying
    Devon.
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