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  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    I will be making them for sale at some point
    Knew it, just knew it!

    This is what is known as ‘spam’, Steve - using the guise of a ‘helpful’ post in order to flog a product. Not acceptable behaviour on this forum, nor is dissing other people’s experienced and informed feedback. Try inventing a watering can instead. Oops, someone has already done that. Over and out.

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  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    To be fair he's not trying to flog anything, just trying to test an idea that may at some point in the future earn him some money - I can't see a problem with that.

    Some of his replies don't have a good vibe, but that sometimes goes both ways on this forum.

    Personally it's not something I'd consider using. It seems pointless to me.
    But I wish you luck and maybe this time next year you'll be a millionaire....

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  • stevekeaysstevekeays Posts: 34
    edited December 2019
    The thing is you'd need one of these for every size pot you have if you want even coverage, then more again for plants with different sized stems or multiple stems. 
     
    It doesnt matter if the devoice doesnt fit the pot oerfectly so if it is an inch or two bigger it can still be used with the same benefits. Yiu would simply water around the device while it is in place to get the areas that it doenst cover. Not difficult at all. As I was saying if it is a small pot you probably wouldnt benefit much from this. I have some seedlings going now in some pots about 1 gallon and less, and I actually did try making one for them but realized I simply didnt need it because in a small pot the water ;levekl rises around the edge, and then sinks evenly so this is the same effect. I agree it wouldnt work in a pot with several plants ,unless the stems were close together  but that is not most circumstances ,most times people put on plant in a pot . I think it might help to have two different sizes for someone who has plants growing in 5 gallon pots and others in 10 gallon pots with significantly wider tops. This is the only ccase where someone would benefit from having more than one of these devices.
    " I've also never had any problems watering them and getting dry spots as you describe"

    Well thats great for you, but I am sure that many do, since I have read many forums where people talk about this very problem , especially as their soild starts to dry it and has a difficuot time holdiong water anymore . 

    I also am just taking you at your word,and wonder if you actually dug down deep into your soil after watering, or you just believe this to be true on aw whim . Anyone can test for thesmselves after they are done with a plant in a large pot , and just try watering it one last time, and then dig deep. I think ytou will be surprised at what you discover !
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited December 2019
    I'm confused ... these statements  seem to contradict each other ...

    "...As I say this is much easier than using a watering can, since you dont have to hold the can for several minutes in the air moving it around the plants...."

    "...Yiu would simply water around the device while it is in place to get the areas that it doenst cover...."
     
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  •  Also what stops the water flowing out at a faster rate through the slit or through the bit around the stem?

    Since there is much more space in the holes than the slit or the bit around the stem, the water flows at a very even rate throught the device. Just because some water may escape through the slit or the bit in the center is of almost no consequence whatsoever . However for perfectionists who are insisting that the slit gets more water than its supposed to, well the device will be set in a  different position each time, so its not like the same area will get extra water every time, that extra bit of water from the slit will be added to a different area the next time. So odds will dictate that the soil will be watered perfectly over time .The final model may even have a piece that will cover the slit just to keep all perefectionists happy ! And of course if itis cut in half ,and then reattached around the stem there is no split anyhow . 
  • TopbirdTopbird Posts: 8,355
    A word to the wise Steve. Many of us have been using this forum for many years. Most of us have been gardening for (literally) decades and we have a lot of experience.  We may be a group of old friends but we are a genuinely friendly bunch and welcome newcomers and beginners and try to be helpful to people with genuine queries and problems.

    It is good etiquette when joining such a forum to behave the same way you would when introduced to a bunch of long standing friends at a social gathering.

    You introduce yourself politely and quietly, you accept responses as they come and only start to assert your own opinions and attitudes when you know the people a little better.

    You asked a question about an idea you've had. Unfortunately nobody else thought it was a particularly good idea. You should have accepted those opinions with good grace instead of stomping off to your corner like a 5 year old. If you'd done that you'd have found your experience on here to be a whole lot friendlier and less confrontational. 

    For what it's worth - I have also never had a problem watering house plants. I (very) occasionally use a house watering can which does the job very well. Usually I stand the plants in water to allow them to soak up as much water as they need. That avoids getting water on stems and leaves which may rot if wet.
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  •  there is no way on this forum to tell how old/infirm/impaired/experienced or otherwise a poster is unless you complete the profile section when registering or say so in your post.    I'm afraid your attitude is off-putting, judgemental and not designed to win friends.   There are all sorts of different ages, sizes and levels of health on these boards - as you will discover if you stick around and get to know us.

    I figured my comment may have been a bit harsh first thing in the morning,at least here in Canada it is.  I am truly sorry to anyone I offended , but I am only human however and have  put quite a bit of thoiught into this idea, and have high hopes for it,so its very difficult when people make somments that make it seem like they raent listening,or dismissing it out of hand just because it doesnt apply at all to their type of gardening . I think I must repeat this may only be for some people who are growing certain kinds of plants, and in fairly large pots, at least 2 or 3 gallons anyhow .  Also I am wondering why the pic isnt posting ,its just a link, or should it be that way ?
  • It does seem an overly complex way to water a plant. Even of you direct your hose/watering can at the same spot every time, the water will naturally permeate around the pot and all the roots will benefit. 

    I correct myselfy when I said this is totally untrue, because it may be true with pots that are small, and the water will rise in the pot above the soil faster than the soil can absorb it ,as I mentioned with my seedlings
  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    " I've also never had any problems watering them and getting dry spots as you describe"

    Well thats great for you, but I am sure that many do, since I have read many forums where people talk about this very problem , especially as their soild starts to dry it and has a difficuot time holdiong water anymore . 

    I also am just taking you at your word,and wonder if you actually dug down deep into your soil after watering, or you just believe this to be true on aw whim . Anyone can test for thesmselves after they are done with a plant in a large pot , and just try watering it one last time, and then dig deep. I think ytou will be surprised at what you discover !
    Sorry I didn't explain myself very well. There may be dry spots in the soil, obviously I'm not going to disturb the plant to find out, but if the plant is healthy then the odd dry spot isn't a problem. House plants are generally very tolerant to varying soil moisture unless they're the type that need to be kept constantly moist. If there really is a problem then it's usually a sign of bad soil rather than a bad watering system. You'd be masking the symptoms rather than providing a solution.

    A similar product that uses a slightly different technique would be the ones with a water reservoir and a perforated spike that you leave in the soil.

    Perhaps a different approach to your system would be to use a mesh framework rather than the plastic bowl. Then you could line that with a permiable fabric that could be overlapped and turned up at the edges and around the stem/s. Then you could fill that with water and it would seep out evenly all over the base rather than just through the holes.

    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • stevekeaysstevekeays Posts: 34
    edited December 2019
    I'm confused ... these statements  seem to contradict each other ...

    "...As I say this is much easier than using a watering can, since you dont have to hold the can for several minutes in the air moving it around the plants...."






    "...Yiu would simply water around the device while it is in place to get the areas that it doenst cover...."

    Not contradictory at all,even though you might have to water the smal amount of space by hand around the edvice , doesnt mean you arent saving the time of having to water by hand the 90% of area that it does cover !

    Besides maybe I will make 20 different sizes to cover any possible size /shape pot that you might have. 
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