'Arjoo' referring to a certain thread by any chance @wild edges? My experience of the NHS has been largely excellent, apart from the very rude woman at the hearing aid clinic when I took my Dad. I felt like telling her - 'he's deaf, not effing stupid' - but I restrained myself. When visit the fracture clinic last year, a moron started kicking off - one of the 'poor me' brigade. As a result, he got seen - taking my appt with the consultant which then resulted in some misguided information and a huge delay in further treatment for me. That was a drag, but was a minor problem in the grand scheme of things - the problem was the attitude of that clown, and his threatening behaviour to the staff. That's the kind of thing that needs addressed, so that staff can do their job safely - as they should. I know people who moan about the NHS constantly - despite using it constantly [for sod all usually] getting their heart treatment instantly, while spending their life sitting on their a*se doing zero exercise, smoking, drinking and eating to excess and generally bringing their problems on themselves.
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
One of the problems is, people almost expect there to be problems when they take their car to a garage, or call a plumber, but they expect perfection when they go into hospital. However, just like everything else, some will have a good experience, some a bad one. Our expectations are constantly rising, but what we pay is not.
How can you lie there and think of England When you don't even know who's in the team
The NHS is a product of its own success. Just think of the operations that people now take for granted that 10..20 years ago were just a dream. People regularly have their eyes operated on, hips and knees replaced - even organ transplants. All on the NHS.
My mum had an awful disease called polymyositis in her latter years - which morphed into scleroderma which affected her kidneys and then onto dialysis. We got to know the doc in charge pretty well and saw him one day in the street walking back to our cars. He was quite open and said that 25...20..15 years ago, my mum would have just died.
Therein lies the problem - we ALL expect more. We ALL live longer and have more things fixed simple because medicine and the NHS has advanced so much that they CAN fix them.
No one thinks that for every illness or condition that can be fixed - it comes with two prices - the fix itself becoming widespread and then the additional costs in the follow on care that person will now have in the years that may have been cut short.
If you think any of the posts here are curmudgeonly, then think again. Have a look at the Old Bailey Archives.... Just hit search to list all then pick a trial - or start at the first as each case has a 'next/previous' option. (I did try to search my surname and surprisingly didn't find anything ...).
Crime..forgetting to tug your forelock...verdict...transportation
...all because the judge was feeling a bit curmudgeonly because his gout was playing him up after too much duck and port the night before...
Just love this one ...extract...
'...After them we may reckon another
who was proved guilty of
killing a
Brewers Servant
in White-cross-street
, but the same being
found to be only Manslaughter , and
not done with any repeise malice (as Lawyers speak) upon his earnest
begging the favour of his Book, he was admitted to the benefit of his
Clergy; but after all was not capable to read, and so received sentence
of Death
.....'
(my emphasis).
Then..just heard on Radio 4.. a man accused of crushing his partner's child to death behind a car seat just got sentenced to seven and a half years...so out in four....
If private health insurance companies had to train all their health care professionals, instead of getting it done for them by the NHS at public expense, I suspect few people would be able to afford the premiums. And when privately-funded procedures go wrong, the NHS has to deal with the aftermath.
If private health insurance companies had to train all their health care professionals, instead of getting it done for them by the NHS at public expense, I suspect few people would be able to afford the premiums. And when privately-funded procedures go wrong, the NHS has to deal with the aftermath.
On thin ice with that claim. I'd love to know what proportion of NHS employees were actually trained abroad and then poached by the NHS.
The divide between NHS and private is often difficult to determine. My brother-in-law had his hip replacement done at a private hospital but as an NHS patient. Superb 'service' from start to finish and at no direct cost to him. Mind you he still had to wait 8 months for an operation which the consultant had originally said was so urgent it must be done within 3 months. Thankfully no apparent problems since the op.
I think we've ended up expecting everything to be 5 star service but we only want to pay budget prices. " this is terrible, it should be better. Don't ask me to pay more tax to make it better, I pay enough already, but somebody should be paying more"
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My experience of the NHS has been largely excellent, apart from the very rude woman at the hearing aid clinic when I took my Dad. I felt like telling her - 'he's deaf, not effing stupid' - but I restrained myself.
When visit the fracture clinic last year, a moron started kicking off - one of the 'poor me' brigade. As a result, he got seen - taking my appt with the consultant which then resulted in some misguided information and a huge delay in further treatment for me.
That was a drag, but was a minor problem in the grand scheme of things - the problem was the attitude of that clown, and his threatening behaviour to the staff. That's the kind of thing that needs addressed, so that staff can do their job safely - as they should.
I know people who moan about the NHS constantly - despite using it constantly [for sod all usually] getting their heart treatment instantly, while spending their life sitting on their a*se doing zero exercise, smoking, drinking and eating to excess and generally bringing their problems on themselves.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
However, just like everything else, some will have a good experience, some a bad one.
Our expectations are constantly rising, but what we pay is not.
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
1 in 4 doctors, 1 in 7 nurses, 1 in 8 of all NHS workers. More details here
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nhs-foreign-doctors-how-many-reliant-immigration-theresa-may-brexit-explained-visa-a8383306.html
" this is terrible, it should be better. Don't ask me to pay more tax to make it better, I pay enough already, but somebody should be paying more"