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  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Are we self-sufficient in vegan substitution foods?
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • Omori said:
    I think like anything people can become overzealous when they've adopted something they consider lifechanging, whether it be religion, or diet, etc, and certainly it can get heated on both sides.  I personally believe in live and let live, so long as you aren't harming someone with your actions.  I would never try to tell someone what they should or shouldn't eat, and trying to force someone into veganism through "fact bombardment" will just have the opposite effect.  Besides which, it's not an easy lifestyle to stick to unless you yourself feel quite strongly about it. 
    I agree, live and let live. One of the biggest lessons I've learned is that my way isn't always the best or right way, it may be for me but not everyone! Other people have brilliant ideas and its good to try new things even if they dont end up working for you.

    Yeah people do tend to get overzealous, especially when they're new to or passionate about something that they dont have a huge understanding about yet. I think personal experience is really important and its better to see how something is for you and speak on it then rather than just repeat everyone elses truth. If that even makes sense😂
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    B3 said:
    Are we self-sufficient in vegan substitution foods?
    I think we could be with mycoprotein (used in Quorn). Interestingly, the mycoprotein (Fusarium venenatum)was discovered growing in soil in Buckinghamshire (thank you Wiki).
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    @Nollie - my comment was more about people who get KFC/burgers/pizza etc because they can't cook.    I've seen people on "teach me" cookery programmes who don't know how to chop an onion.   
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • barry islandbarry island Posts: 1,847
    Won't all the expats have to come home now and swamp the NHS or are they revoking their nationalities and becoming johnny foreigner. ;-)
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    Neither option is reasonable to me.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • barry islandbarry island Posts: 1,847
    Think positive.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    I do.   There will be ways round it all.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Fairy Nuff, Obelixx, but many takeaways are also cheaper to buy than the ingredients to make a decent healthy meal from scratch, so I do think food poverty is a serious issue, it’s not only about not being able to cook. Plus poverty of time if both parents are working. As well as having less time to do so themselves, working parents probably don’t have much time to teach their kids how to cook either and the loss of school cookery classes can’t help.

    The lost art of home cooking, is, I believe, a societal issue that crosses all classes and income levels. The poor buy takeaways or cheap ready meals and the rich eat at expensive restaurants and leave their luxury show kitchens pristine... 
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    Not here.  The local brasseries are only open at midday and have 3course menus ranging from 12.5€ including a glass of wine - this aimed at "ouvriers" or workmen and 16.50 without wine for the rest of us.  The only takeaway is a pizza place that's only open in the summer holiday period and sometimes at Easter.

    There is a smarter restaurant but it doesn't change its menu often enough for us so we haven't been in ages.   There are others around, including Michelin but we have to hit the road to get to them.

    The local butcher and the supermarkets have "traiteur" sections where they cook dishes and sell them for one, 2, X number of people but they're made on site by trained cooks using fresh ingredients.

    Different culture.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
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