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Self -sufficiency

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  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Shagreen?
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Isn't isinglass the stuff they use on Bake Off to replace gelatin when they do vegetarian/vegan meringues?
    How can it be vegan is my question. That makes no sense to me. Or am I totally wrong about that?
    If we wanted to be self sufficient, we'd have to accept we can't have strawberries in winter, or all those exotic imported vegetables year round, and go back to a simpler way of cooking.
    Can you imagine the outcry at supermarkets up and down the country? Or all those over inflated egos of 'celebrity' chefs popped. It would be hilarious. The new Jamie Oliver book - 5,000 ways with a carrot  :D

    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • SkandiSkandi Posts: 1,723
    I think you're thinking of agar agar fairygirl. which is seaweed.
    To get what the UK is self sufficient in (probably nothing) you'ld have to look at how many tons are exported against how many tons are imported. I can buy British pork here in Denmark, and I most certainly remember buying danish pork in the UK!
    WWII is probably a good place to start, think how much the population has gone up since, but then also think how much crop yield has also risen.
    It would probably not do much harm to the population health wise to have to be self sufficient but I expect the screaming would be audible from Australia.
    Sugar at least would still be around, the UK produces about half it's own sugar about 1million tons. 15kg per year for every soul in the country.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Weed still have chips and mash. Probably in the same plate😊
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Coffee made from chicory 🤢 remember that ? 😪

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • HelixHelix Posts: 631
    Could all be a very good thing, as post war health was extremely good.  Could solve the diabetes and obesity crisis too so would save the NHS an extremely large fortune. Many other illnesses are now being shown to be affected by bad diet, like heart attacks.    Slight problem of the tea and coffee, bit I’m sure people could cope! 
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Helix said:
    Could all be a very good thing, as post war health was extremely good.  Could solve the diabetes and obesity crisis too so would save the NHS an extremely large fortune. Many other illnesses are now being shown to be affected by bad diet, like heart attacks.    Slight problem of the tea and coffee, bit I’m sure people could cope! 
    We coped before because we had to ... we were at war with a truly evil regime ... the thought that any country would willingly inflict wartime deprivation on itself out of nostalgia for ‘the good old days’ is totally bananas .... speaking of which 🍌 

    And don’t forget, there’s a heck of a lot more people on these islands than there used to be ... and how many of us on this forum would be happy if the government decreed we should dig up all our lawns and flowerbeds to grow cabbages and potatoes? That’s how we managed to feed ourselves back then ... 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    I get my tea from a speciality shop as I'm friendly with the owner. I asked him this week how he thinks he will cope with Brexit and I assumed he'd be ok since tea comes from the Far East mostly. Turns out all his suppiers and distributers are based in mainland Europe and he's struggling to find any in other countries that can meet his requirements.

    It's funny though but during the Credit Crunch everyone started talking about seasonal eating and locally sourced food but that seems to have been dropped like a fad as soon as the ecomony recovered a bit. Now we're all shopping in 5 different supermarkets at the same time to meet the demands for the cheapest food. I see it as a real chance now for farming marketing people to push British food and at least make some good out of the mess.
    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    I get my tea from a speciality shop 
    Oooh - get you.. :D
    If there's nae tea, that's it - razor blades and the hot bath for me  ;)

    I agree with you re the supermarkets/farming etc. It was really my point too. I'm also fed up with the tendency in the media just now to blame people for eating coos. They are the new scapegoats. 
    Unlike people who eat goats....which is a totally different matter entirely. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    If we plough up all the grassland in the UK that’s used for producing meat and try to grow fruit, veg and grain

    1.  It won’t work cos the land is unsuitable 

    2.  It’ll release a load more carbon into the atmosphere .... grazing land is a form of carbon capture. 

    The figures commonly cited against the eating of beef relate to intensive beef production, not grass fed as is the majority of beef and lamb in the UK. 
    I wish the media would learn to read the full reports not just the first paragraph 🙄 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





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