That's ok Daniel, it will recover... I'm only speaking from experience and what I do now, and I do use composted manure, is to mix it into the soil during the winter, January time.. around all my roses, so they all get it, but mixed in, not left on the surface.... then in Spring after feeding, I mulch with multi purpose... it's so much better..
As I just said to Daniel, it's only from my experience... I don't do science, that may say something different, but like you winter time is the best time to use composted manure around roses, mixing it in... I had very poor results using it as a surface mulch... another thing I don't use as a surface mulch is shredded bark... I reckon I lost a whole season with poor growth on my roses because I used that stuff as a mulch.. it seems to reduce nitrogen availability and my roses all grew poorly... so that's another thing out the window for me...
Hello everyone, I planted a Ghislaine De Feligonde Rose back in November. It was a potted Peter Beales rose that I got from a garden centre.
I planted it straight away and it's growing with lots of lovely foliage.
However - I realise that compared to all the other roses that I have planted since - the canes had been cut and left quite long. At the time I just assumed "well they know what they're doing"
I'm wondering now whether I should have cut them shorter - if so, is it too late to do it now?
No, just leave it be, it's a rambler, so just let it do its own thing for now and build up a framework... you should have flower buds on it soon... it's really vigorous when established and throws out lots of canes both higher up and lower..
It's very dry in East Anglia, I think we're in drought, no real rain for weeks.. so if you are new to roses, and have this past winter planted bare root roses, and you also have not had much rain, then they will need to be kept well watered in their first year...
I rarely water from the 2nd season, but first year I give them a 10 litre once a week if no rain about... it's best if when using a mulch, as said before, to use a multi purpose compost and make a well or dip in the middle... so any rain or watering will go straight where it's needed down to the roots... if you mound the soil up it will just run off..
Here is a young bare root I planted in winter, showing how the water does not run away from the plant using this method...
..my tap water is horrendous.. it's so hard, cost me a fortune in plumbing bills.. new boiler etc... Roses hate very hard tap water, it makes the leaves go yellow or ill looking very quickly... so in my 10 ltr can I always add two heaped spoonfuls of loose tea, I use up old tea bags which have been cut open and the tea removed.. this acidifies the water somewhat... one is supposed to leave it overnight, but I don't always do that...a few hours usually...
Hi Marlorena, your advice regarding composted manure has been duly noted, thank you. If I use it next winter, I shall take care to keep it well away from the canes and mix it in as you suggest. Also I like your tip re using tea and will definitely adopt that! My well water is extremely alkaline too. I have noticed a few new leaves on some of my now 3-year old roses are yellowing a little, so it could well be the effects of hard water beginning to show. Good timing, I was about to post a query about that!
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Very likely I would say, as the rest of the foliage is also on the pale side for this rose... unless there is some lighting issue with the camera, the leaves should be darker than those on M Wood... what's the rest of the plant like?...
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although my other roses look alright I think it will be best to just make sure they don’t get the same problem!!
I suppose from making the mistake is how I learn to not do the same next year and hopefully my desdemona recovers well as it’s one of my favourites!!
@Nollie
As I just said to Daniel, it's only from my experience... I don't do science, that may say something different, but like you winter time is the best time to use composted manure around roses, mixing it in... I had very poor results using it as a surface mulch... another thing I don't use as a surface mulch is shredded bark... I reckon I lost a whole season with poor growth on my roses because I used that stuff as a mulch.. it seems to reduce nitrogen availability and my roses all grew poorly... so that's another thing out the window for me...
I planted it straight away and it's growing with lots of lovely foliage.
However - I realise that compared to all the other roses that I have planted since - the canes had been cut and left quite long. At the time I just assumed "well they know what they're doing"
I'm wondering now whether I should have cut them shorter - if so, is it too late to do it now?
I rarely water from the 2nd season, but first year I give them a 10 litre once a week if no rain about... it's best if when using a mulch, as said before, to use a multi purpose compost and make a well or dip in the middle... so any rain or watering will go straight where it's needed down to the roots... if you mound the soil up it will just run off..
Here is a young bare root I planted in winter, showing how the water does not run away from the plant using this method...
..my tap water is horrendous.. it's so hard, cost me a fortune in plumbing bills.. new boiler etc... Roses hate very hard tap water, it makes the leaves go yellow or ill looking very quickly... so in my 10 ltr can I always add two heaped spoonfuls of loose tea, I use up old tea bags which have been cut open and the tea removed.. this acidifies the water somewhat... one is supposed to leave it overnight, but I don't always do that...a few hours usually...
..should be this colour Nollie..