You might also like 'The Lady's Blush'.. a David Austin rose... it's another thorny shrub... not large, 4 foot x 4 foot, something like that... wildish looking, constant bloomer.. not much scent, and the flowers don't last long.. but it produces a lot of them..
..then there's 'Mrs. Oakley Fisher'.. this is actually an old Hybrid Tea, but with an informal wild look... about 3 x 3 foot.. constant bloom production..
sorry I don't have better photos... can't remember about rain resistance with this one.. the flowers don't last long.. maybe not for Wales...
Thank you, @Marlorena, it looks like a good alternative. After seeing it on your thread, I thought it is a small floribunda... don't know why it could work and the disease resistance also looks good. Hard choices... Another question: What do you think about Tottering-by-Gently in its second year?
..well it's not a patch on 'Kew Gardens'... so far... I did have to move it though so I don't want to be too premature.. a very different type of growth habit, suitable for leaning against an obelisk... I hope I get to like it better...
What about Burgundy Iceberg for a purple/lilac rose to go with the apricot/yellow rose, @edhelka? It’s on my list following M’s recommendation for being weather and disease resistant.
A deeper burgundy or wine colour with a Lark Ascending type colour way for contrast might look interesting - a Munstead Wood or Souvenir de DJ type colour...
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
That would be lovely, @Nollie, but I am trying to avoid burgundy colour or really anything that is between red and purple and anything between red and pink (which is a shame, really, because these are my favourite colours) because I already have too many colours in the back garden and I have quite a lot of basic red.
But I am considering burgundy iceberg for the front garden.
I have in a pot a bright red rose. A patio rose I think. It was here when I moved in (2014) and has always been neglected. It survived last year’s heatwave unfed and unwatered. I keep meaning to repot it but come November time or always slips my mind.
Following the recent discussion on red roses that aren't properly red (on the Garden Gallery thread)...
@edhelka, thanks so much for the Trumpeter red floribunda recommendation. If it went orange instead of pink for me that would be good, but knowing my luck it would still turn out pink!
Floribundas do seem, on the whole, more disease and fade resistant than the DA’s. For example, my yellow Julia Child floribunda holds its colour and is much more humidity, heat, rain and disease resistant that the two DA’s I have tried, Golden Celebration and Charles Darwin. All these are/were in my Oranges and Lemons border against the west wall of the house which does not get hit with fierce sun for so long. CD has gone, GC to be replaced by Golden Beauty. Lady Emma Hamilton is going and I will stick to orange perennials there.
I am giving up on roses in my main hot border. It is on the west side of the house and roughly faces south. It gets fierce sun for much of the day. I think it’s too challenging a location for anything but a vigorous hybrid tea, but I don’t like their form much.
The east side of my house is more suited to roses, here the colours are white, pink, lilac, purple and the odd bit of burgundy creeping in. I am going to lose most of the current DA’s there too, as they still struggle in the heat and humidity, even though it’s more shaded with gentler light. I am definitely going to try moving Gruss an Tepliz here as it’s a beautiful rose with a scent I can detect (rare for me) and maybe try the strongest one of my three Munstead Woods.
HazyB’s rose above looks a good strong red!
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
@Nollie.. as I've said before, I think you need to look at different types of roses - not Austins - for your climate... which sounds to me like it has similarities to the climate of Florida... very hot and humid in summer...
..here is a link to roses proven in Florida... some will not be familiar to you, but others will be... I think you should try and obtain a few from this list... virtually all of them are available somewhere in Europe, if not the UK... https://paulzimmermanroses.com/resources/best-roses-for-florida/
For local gardeners here, I saw a rose yesterday that really took my eye... if you like a red/purple scented Hybrid Tea with long stems.. look for 'Pure Poetry'... I think I'll get one this winter for a pot...
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sorry I don't have better photos... can't remember about rain resistance with this one.. the flowers don't last long.. maybe not for Wales...
Another question: What do you think about Tottering-by-Gently in its second year?
A deeper burgundy or wine colour with a Lark Ascending type colour way for contrast might look interesting - a Munstead Wood or Souvenir de DJ type colour...
I WILL do it this year.
@edhelka, thanks so much for the Trumpeter red floribunda recommendation. If it went orange instead of pink for me that would be good, but knowing my luck it would still turn out pink!
Floribundas do seem, on the whole, more disease and fade resistant than the DA’s. For example, my yellow Julia Child floribunda holds its colour and is much more humidity, heat, rain and disease resistant that the two DA’s I have tried, Golden Celebration and Charles Darwin. All these are/were in my Oranges and Lemons border against the west wall of the house which does not get hit with fierce sun for so long. CD has gone, GC to be replaced by Golden Beauty. Lady Emma Hamilton is going and I will stick to orange perennials there.
I am giving up on roses in my main hot border. It is on the west side of the house and roughly faces south. It gets fierce sun for much of the day. I think it’s too challenging a location for anything but a vigorous hybrid tea, but I don’t like their form much.
The east side of my house is more suited to roses, here the colours are white, pink, lilac, purple and the odd bit of burgundy creeping in. I am going to lose most of the current DA’s there too, as they still struggle in the heat and humidity, even though it’s more shaded with gentler light. I am definitely going to try moving Gruss an Tepliz here as it’s a beautiful rose with a scent I can detect (rare for me) and maybe try the strongest one of my three Munstead Woods.
HazyB’s rose above looks a good strong red!
..here is a link to roses proven in Florida... some will not be familiar to you, but others will be... I think you should try and obtain a few from this list... virtually all of them are available somewhere in Europe, if not the UK...
https://paulzimmermanroses.com/resources/best-roses-for-florida/
For local gardeners here, I saw a rose yesterday that really took my eye... if you like a red/purple scented Hybrid Tea with long stems.. look for 'Pure Poetry'... I think I'll get one this winter for a pot...