Ive been doing more digging and moving plants around to make room for the new roses. Replanted Kew Gardens again, poor thing - just as it was starting to get comfy. But I suspect it’ll do much better in the new spot, more space and the fence wires to use for support to climb.
I forgot how many Rudbeckias I’d planted - got a lot of them going from seed, then planted them in a big drift - they looked wonderful when all flowering, but I’ve had to move them all around to make space.
Just been looking back through photos from this year, some gorgeous ones of the roses. I’d like to do a collage of my favourites for each rose to sum up my first year with them.
...sounds like a great idea.... are those annual Rudbeckias you got there? I grow perennial ones.. they're very easy... go well next to 'Monch'... the one I like best is Rudbeckia x deamii.. I prefer this to the more usual 'Goldsturm' which always looks a bit dumpy to me... deamii has a looser habit... spreads quickly and easy to develop a drift of them.. ...I also like one called 'Henry Eilers' it's quite unusual...
I wish my bulbs would arrive.. it's getting too cold and wet to do much and I want to pack up for the season... but I shall have to plant these tulips when they come... Oh I also have 2 roses still to come from Peter Beales…. but they're heading for pots in the greenhouse for now... so not a problem .. ...I've just moved a Geranium for about the 6th time in the past 2 months....
...Incidentally,... if a rose hasn't been moved at least twice, then it should consider itself very lucky... sometimes I'll move one just a foot to one side if I think it looks better...
@Daniel Rutherford … I keep one or two in there for the winter... there's no need to do so they are perfectly hardy for outdoors but it brings them on a bit sooner in Spring... just a week or two earlier...
@Nollie, I have Warm Welcome too and find it's very stiff. I haven't really tried training it though as I only really need the top half. Also I have it in a terrible place, between my arbour seat and a huge log/garden debris heap and I'm so impressed with its make-do attitude I let it do whatever it wants.
For a few days now I've been settled on the following DA roses, but will leave it until Friday when the offer runs out before deciding. Maybe longer if still unsure.
Desdemona - in ground, sun from all directions, fairly sheltered space
Munstead Wood and Charles Rennie Mackintosh - both in ground, same bed, sun from west only, not particularly sheltered
I chose them by colour and size and because the bloom shapes differ from my usual types. Any thoughts? They seem like popular choices on the forum and I assume with good reason.
Well the more I look at roses on the web, twined ‘round an obelisk the more I am thinking they look like a trussed up joint ready for the oven and Marlorena’s relaxed approach is the best approach. The frustrating thing was Warm Welcome looked fabulous and flowered from top to bottom with no training, just the odd wayward stem tied in. I should have left well alone. I have ordered another one and am going to start again and do what I did before - benign neglect. Seems to work, @Victoria Sponge.
Munstead Wood is a fabulous colour, although very thorny.
Style roses do look fabulous, but I am happy with TCL, especially their prices!
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@Victoria Sponge - I’ve just planted two of those. I saw Desdemona on the website and thought I liked the look of it, then I saw it in real life at a Garden Centre and loved the scent, nearly bought there and then at full price - but the Yorkshireman in me asserted itself. I’ve seen it since and had my original thoughts further confirmed. Then Marlorena had it on her list of best DAs that she’s grown as well.
I’ve put it in a large pot.
Munstead Wood, I didn’t really like the look of at first. I saw it in person again same GC as Desdemona, saw the thorns and sniffed it, and thought actually I can see why someone would put up with the thorns for this. Then I saw it in the rose garden at Cliveden house and saw it with a few loose double blooms with stamen showing which I liked, having the variety. I saw it a few weeks ago at Scampston and even just a single petal had such a strong and amazing scent - made me very glad that I’d ordered it.
Oh yes, @Mr. Vine Eye I think I saw the photo of the petal on here. I had a search through the forum and the Right Rose website mentioned the other day.
I'm glad I haven't had to compromise scent for the colours I've chosen. I think the purples will look great with my brown Heleniums. I just hope they don't flop too much and annoy me. I will have to be tolerant!
I was very tempted by some of the orange/yellow DA's I saw but I recently made a colour chart of my current roses and had more of them than anything else, followed by pinks which surprised me. I would have sworn I didn't have any pink roses🤔
@Victoria Sponge …. I just wanted to let you know that regarding Charles Rennie, it only has a light scent, and I didn't want you to think it's strongly scented, because it isn't... however it's a great blooming rose, continuous, and withstands heat and drought, and rain too... but scent, not so much.. hardly any in the first year, and in the 2nd year you will get some old rose scent what we refer to as apple scented... DA's claims of ''Lilac and Almond Blossom'' is a bit far fetched if you ask me... but it's pleasant enough when it arrives, but you won't be going 'wow' over it..
...it will also grow much taller than stated... for me it got to 6 foot tall, quite slim growth... but you can keep it shorter if wanted... nice range of colours from lavender pink to lilac... I only removed it because I had it next to a seat, and I was disappointed with the scent... so I've got another one there now... but it's a great rose...
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I forgot how many Rudbeckias I’d planted - got a lot of them going from seed, then planted them in a big drift - they looked wonderful when all flowering, but I’ve had to move them all around to make space.
Just been looking back through photos from this year, some gorgeous ones of the roses. I’d like to do a collage of my favourites for each rose to sum up my first year with them.
...I also like one called 'Henry Eilers' it's quite unusual...
I wish my bulbs would arrive.. it's getting too cold and wet to do much and I want to pack up for the season... but I shall have to plant these tulips when they come...
Oh I also have 2 roses still to come from Peter Beales…. but they're heading for pots in the greenhouse for now... so not a problem ..
...I've just moved a Geranium for about the 6th time in the past 2 months....
...Incidentally,... if a rose hasn't been moved at least twice, then it should consider itself very lucky... sometimes I'll move one just a foot to one side if I think it looks better...
I grew them all from Wilko seed packs.
For a few days now I've been settled on the following DA roses, but will leave it until Friday when the offer runs out before deciding. Maybe longer if still unsure.
Desdemona - in ground, sun from all directions, fairly sheltered space
Munstead Wood and Charles Rennie Mackintosh - both in ground, same bed, sun from west only, not particularly sheltered
I chose them by colour and size and because the bloom shapes differ from my usual types. Any thoughts? They seem like popular choices on the forum and I assume with good reason.
Munstead Wood is a fabulous colour, although very thorny.
Style roses do look fabulous, but I am happy with TCL, especially their prices!
I’ve put it in a large pot.
Munstead Wood, I didn’t really like the look of at first. I saw it in person again same GC as Desdemona, saw the thorns and sniffed it, and thought actually I can see why someone would put up with the thorns for this. Then I saw it in the rose garden at Cliveden house and saw it with a few loose double blooms with stamen showing which I liked, having the variety. I saw it a few weeks ago at Scampston and even just a single petal had such a strong and amazing scent - made me very glad that I’d ordered it.
I'm glad I haven't had to compromise scent for the colours I've chosen. I think the purples will look great with my brown Heleniums. I just hope they don't flop too much and annoy me. I will have to be tolerant!
I was very tempted by some of the orange/yellow DA's I saw but I recently made a colour chart of my current roses and had more of them than anything else, followed by pinks which surprised me. I would have sworn I didn't have any pink roses🤔
...it will also grow much taller than stated... for me it got to 6 foot tall, quite slim growth... but you can keep it shorter if wanted... nice range of colours from lavender pink to lilac... I only removed it because I had it next to a seat, and I was disappointed with the scent... so I've got another one there now... but it's a great rose...