Yes the one on the left is definitely an Acer Grisuem but the one I'm trying to identify is totally different and not an acer. I'm sure xx sorry everyone I'm driving you all nuts!!!
Well this is a real puzzle! I've been trying to think of something that has pinnate leaves like that. Sorbus? Robinia? I can't think of anything that's quite right.
Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Soil type: sandy, well-drained
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I would love to see pics of fresh leaves.
To my eye the leaves are pinnate rather than palmate.
So this is just a suggestion...Syringa pinnatifolia.
https://www.rhs.org.uk/Plants/17925/Syringa-pinnatifolia/Details
If right this is a very special shrub which will flower in April.
Very unlike the normal Lilac..Syringa vulgare.
sorry everyone I'm driving you all nuts!!!
Glad I have set a challenge Jennyj hee hee