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  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    edited October 2018
    Don't buy
    An iPad /phone needs 10grms a car needs 15kgs. 

    Anyway, we needed worry about any of it, now they’ve started Fracking in the Uk we will have our own oil and lots of methane escaping into the atmostphere.
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    @Papi Jo, you've got me. I love a friendly debate. 
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • DyersEndDyersEnd Posts: 730
    Buy
    Lyn said:
    DyersEnd said:
    Perhaps people prefer to work in dangerous/unpleasant conditions rather than starve.
    I’m not sure 4 year babies do! 
    But their parent has to take the child to work or stay at home whether the employer is a big global business or someone local. I wish no one ever had to make that choice but they do.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    Lyn said:
    An iPad /phone needs 10grms a car needs 15kgs. 


     "In the third quarter of FY2018 around 11.55 million iPads were sold worldwide."
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/269915/global-apple-ipad-sales-since-q3-2010/
    "Over 350 million iPads have been sold since 2010. "

    It all adds up !
    Devon.
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    Don't buy
    It’s not only batteries that go in iPads!   
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    My point is , that it's easy to point the finger of blame at others, without looking in the mirror at our own choices. All of us.
    I think it's almost impossible for us mere mortals to be able to check the "ethics" of everything we buy, especially with products from HUGE companies which must have innumerable sub contractors , who themselves have sub contractors etc etc.
    Devon.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    There is definitely more serious side to this subject than I considered when I thought  to find whether I should add to Mr D 's bulging coffers.
    I have read, with interest, the comments made and would like to add my own.
    No decent parent would choose for their child to work, even in safe conditions. No adult would choose to work under exploitative conditions.
    If we boycott the goods and the factory closes down, what does the family live on?
    Should we allow them to starve for our principles?
    Our target should be the governments who should be persuaded/ coerced into enacting legislation to ban exploitative practices and ourselves to be willing to pay more for our goods and MrD to ensure that the workers in China making his 'British ' products are treated fairly.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    B3 said:
    There is definitely more serious side to this subject than I considered when I thought  to find whether I should add to Mr D 's bulging coffers.
    .....
    Our target should be the governments who should be persuaded/ coerced into enacting legislation to ban exploitative practices and ourselves to be willing to pay more for our goods and MrD to ensure that the workers in China making his 'British ' products are treated fairly.
    Another problem is defining "treated fairly".  Should the workers in China who are producing goods for the UK market have the same pay as UK workers.  Should they have the same employment terms and conditions as UK workers?.....   Any attempt to enforce such changes would be more likely to mean those currently in employment became unemployed than to change employment law in China. 
    I agree that efforts should be made to improve conditions for all workers, but care needs to be taken about how that is done.
  • DyersEndDyersEnd Posts: 730
    Buy
    I agree with you B3 and I can't really see how putting Mr.D out of business would in any way benefit the world. For what it's worth, I bought one of his cordless vacs and I absolutely love it (I haven't tried other brands though :/).
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    Well, if and when I buy an electric car it will have been built in Europe to keep jobs local and where I know working conditions are amongst the best.

    I do agree governments could do more to legislate and enforce better working conditions.   Another damming report for BBC pay equality this morning and that's in what we would like to think of as a modern, enlightened company in an advanced economy.   Clearly not.   
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
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