I have since been informed that Yes, it is illegal to disturb birds or their environment whilst the nesting season is running.. Unfortunately too late for these birds, but I have asked for some type of information to be announced prior to nesting time next year, and I will push this next Feb/March until it becomes standard practise. I must say that this morning was very quiet without the chirruping of the birds over the wall outside our bedroom.
For roadside hedges the law here is to cut them in June and September. We do find that June can be a little late - most of our roads are so narrow (lanes in fact) and the hedges become overgrown with weeds and brambles, so for driving it is difficult get a full view and often road signs are overgrown with plants!
I was sorry to read the comment referencing EU 'immigrants'. OH's carers are mostly from the EU and we are really sad that we may lose some because of thoughtless comments and negative press articles. They are from a range of countries, very family and care oriented, fabulous cooks, always seem to have healthy 'grannies' remedies for minor illnesses such as colds which involve good old-fashioned common sense use of herbs and so forth - and all seem to have experience of and a love of gardening - particularly veg. They also seem to have a very mature outlook on life with some being quite young or students - not at all interested in spending all their time in pubs and falling about the place as if it's all there is to do in your time off. They think it's wonderful here in this country and those who don't have excellent English are all attending classes to improve. Most speak several languages and work really hard. But there is a sadness now as many of them feel they are not wanted and don't understand the sudden change in attitude towards them. It makes me very sad. But that is just our personal experience and we live in a university city where there has always been a naturally easy mix of cultures.
I'm of immigrant (Indian) descent and I'm gardening barmy. I like to think my garden is the nicest on the street but thats probably what we all like to think.
I'm of immigrant (Indian) descent and I'm gardening barmy. I like to think my garden is the nicest on the street but thats probably what we all like to think.
Thank you for all of your reports - we've removed the offending comment which was posted at 21:05 on Saturday 13th May.
It doesn't look like this thread has spiralled into argument, so we'll leave it open for now.
For new posters to the thread, there will be previous posts without context now, but let's keep to the original subject of garden clearance and wildlife.
I am surprised and rather alarmed that my original post was taken out of context somewhat, but for all said and done it was the birds and nature in general that was at the heart of most of the posts on here.
I think we all agree that nature is the most important aspect of our gardens, that we tweak here and there and pretty up certain sections of our gardens is true, but just as we can't alter the weather (although this seems to be in dispute too), we MUST NOT stop the creatures from entering our gardens and must do all we can to encourage the dwindling numbers to reproduce in a safe environment.
On a positive note - the garden next door has been left wild for 20+ years - that is 20+ years when it could have been so neatly kept that the birds never had the chance to nest.
If nothing else, I hope this topic will jolt a few of the "I must keep my garden as neat as a pin" gardeners to set aside a larger area for wildlife - a few wild flowers, a few old logs, unturned stones, nettles or a tiny pond will all increase habitats for creatures in your garden.
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I have since been informed that Yes, it is illegal to disturb birds or their environment whilst the nesting season is running.. Unfortunately too late for these birds, but I have asked for some type of information to be announced prior to nesting time next year, and I will push this next Feb/March until it becomes standard practise. I must say that this morning was very quiet without the chirruping of the birds over the wall outside our bedroom.
For roadside hedges the law here is to cut them in June and September. We do find that June can be a little late - most of our roads are so narrow (lanes in fact) and the hedges become overgrown with weeds and brambles, so for driving it is difficult get a full view and often road signs are overgrown with plants!
I was sorry to read the comment referencing EU 'immigrants'. OH's carers are mostly from the EU and we are really sad that we may lose some because of thoughtless comments and negative press articles. They are from a range of countries, very family and care oriented, fabulous cooks, always seem to have healthy 'grannies' remedies for minor illnesses such as colds which involve good old-fashioned common sense use of herbs and so forth - and all seem to have experience of and a love of gardening - particularly veg. They also seem to have a very mature outlook on life with some being quite young or students - not at all interested in spending all their time in pubs and falling about the place as if it's all there is to do in your time off. They think it's wonderful here in this country and those who don't have excellent English are all attending classes to improve. Most speak several languages and work really hard. But there is a sadness now as many of them feel they are not wanted and don't understand the sudden change in attitude towards them. It makes me very sad. But that is just our personal experience and we live in a university city where there has always been a naturally easy mix of cultures.
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I'm of immigrant (Indian) descent and I'm gardening barmy. I like to think my garden is the nicest on the street but thats probably what we all like to think.
In the interest of fairness. I'm British born from a British family that I can trace way back past the 1600s on my mother's side and...
... my garden is a right mess! ?
It's a shame the landlord hadn't invested in a proper gardening company to regularly maintain the garden so this incident didn't occur.
It is a shame the gardening company wasn't reputable enough to stand it's ground and not destroy the habitat like this.
Money unfortunately care about racism or equality or nature.
Morning all,
Thank you for all of your reports - we've removed the offending comment which was posted at 21:05 on Saturday 13th May.
It doesn't look like this thread has spiralled into argument, so we'll leave it open for now.
For new posters to the thread, there will be previous posts without context now, but let's keep to the original subject of garden clearance and wildlife.
Thanks Nora.
I am surprised and rather alarmed that my original post was taken out of context somewhat, but for all said and done it was the birds and nature in general that was at the heart of most of the posts on here.
I think we all agree that nature is the most important aspect of our gardens, that we tweak here and there and pretty up certain sections of our gardens is true, but just as we can't alter the weather (although this seems to be in dispute too), we MUST NOT stop the creatures from entering our gardens and must do all we can to encourage the dwindling numbers to reproduce in a safe environment.
On a positive note - the garden next door has been left wild for 20+ years - that is 20+ years when it could have been so neatly kept that the birds never had the chance to nest.
If nothing else, I hope this topic will jolt a few of the "I must keep my garden as neat as a pin" gardeners to set aside a larger area for wildlife - a few wild flowers, a few old logs, unturned stones, nettles or a tiny pond will all increase habitats for creatures in your garden.
Thank you Nora.
Well said GD
Nora
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.