Totally agree with you Blighty Mam. Great idea about recording the conversation. Thanks. The poor dog (I don't blame him for what he did. He was left outside 24/7 all year round. Only attention he got was a 10 minute walk once a day and his food put down with a drink from the outside tap) disappeared at the end of last summer and they got a new dog a few months ago. Much smaller and it's allowed in the house. Still the same problem with the spray though.
Granma, I was thinking of contacting the council. I don't really want them knowing I did that though in case it makes things worse but, if the neighbours are with me, I might do.never thought about him needing planning permission. Not sure he will need it as it could probably be collapsed. Might be worth my while looking in to that. Thanks. There's me on one side. No-one on the other side. I haven't been asked about it.
The stories weren't made up. They used to live down the road from my sister and the lad who was beaten lived across the road from her so I heard about that a couple of years before they moved next to me. Several people told me about the dog a while ago as they knew I sometimes looked after my kid's dogs when they went on holiday. I don't know what happened about the little one who was bitten. The dog owners said it was the boy's fault for looking through the fence. I think they had to pay vet's bills for the dogs.
The story about the hot tub is about the noise it and they make meaning people can't sleep at night and can't sit or potter in their gardens in peace. They shout out things like 'Isn't this wonderful' and 'These bubbles and hot water are lovely' so everyone knows about it. Grrrrr!
Very windy here today and a threat of rain so we'll see if he does spray today. I need to go out shortly so might miss him doing it.
I'd be a bit careful recording the conversations as there could be issues as you shouldn't record someone without their permission to do so. We've had issues with our neighbours and it was something we looked into but found out it would be a bit iffy if we needed to get solicitors involved. But if you do speak to them definitely have someone else around to act as a witness and keep a log of the conversation just in case!
I sympathise enormously forget me not. This is a very tricky situation and by the sound of it, these people could make for very nasty enemies. I'd invest in a cheap video camera which will catch them in the act if there's anything criminal done to your property or any trespass. Even some of the fake cameras, and erect those in a prominent spot so that he sees them. If questioned - say that you saw a few suspicious folk hanging around and 'someone' you know has had a shed/garage/house broken into and items stolen. It may be enough to deter them from anything more serious. I know you shouldn't have to do that but it's often easier in the long run.
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
They can do what they want on their own property, so long as they don't damage your property or break any planning laws. I'd be all for raising the fence, putting a root barrier along the boundary, and putting a discreet CCTV camera on your back garden. They sound like nasty people so if they do decide to damage any of your property you'll have evidence. Sadly with such people even the mildest request for consideration just acts as encouragement.
My mum had similar problems with neighbours who transformed a previously nice garden into an eyesore of mud, chicken coops, outhouses, and let their animals run amok into her garden. They also left a pile of hardcore on the street outside their house for months, making it hard for her to park. When she asked when they were thinking of getting rid of it, they got nasty. She moved house to get away from them
"What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour".
.... It will be the water in the hot tub that is attracting the flies not your plants.
And also the lights that they undoubtedly have in that area - that's why those blue-light fly zappers work - you could explain that if they keep the lights off except when they're using the tub, that may help.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Thank you so much for your replies and support. I think the hot humid atmosphere will attract flies as well as the lights. Not sure what lights they have but often hear a tv in the gazebo they have over the tub.
I've been out most of the day but took a wander round the garden when I came home. Couldn't see anything untoward but doubt I'll notice anything at the moment anyway. I do sympathise with those of you who have had problem neighbours, especially your mum Will.
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Totally agree with you Blighty Mam. Great idea about recording the conversation. Thanks. The poor dog (I don't blame him for what he did. He was left outside 24/7 all year round. Only attention he got was a 10 minute walk once a day and his food put down with a drink from the outside tap) disappeared at the end of last summer and they got a new dog a few months ago. Much smaller and it's allowed in the house. Still the same problem with the spray though.
Granma, I was thinking of contacting the council. I don't really want them knowing I did that though in case it makes things worse but, if the neighbours are with me, I might do.never thought about him needing planning permission. Not sure he will need it as it could probably be collapsed. Might be worth my while looking in to that. Thanks. There's me on one side. No-one on the other side. I haven't been asked about it.
The stories weren't made up. They used to live down the road from my sister and the lad who was beaten lived across the road from her so I heard about that a couple of years before they moved next to me. Several people told me about the dog a while ago as they knew I sometimes looked after my kid's dogs when they went on holiday. I don't know what happened about the little one who was bitten. The dog owners said it was the boy's fault for looking through the fence.
I think they had to pay vet's bills for the dogs.
The story about the hot tub is about the noise it and they make meaning people can't sleep at night and can't sit or potter in their gardens in peace. They shout out things like 'Isn't this wonderful' and 'These bubbles and hot water are lovely' so everyone knows about it. Grrrrr!
Very windy here today and a threat of rain so we'll see if he does spray today. I need to go out shortly so might miss him doing it.
I'd be a bit careful recording the conversations as there could be issues as you shouldn't record someone without their permission to do so. We've had issues with our neighbours and it was something we looked into but found out it would be a bit iffy if we needed to get solicitors involved. But if you do speak to them definitely have someone else around to act as a witness and keep a log of the conversation just in case!
I sympathise enormously forget me not. This is a very tricky situation and by the sound of it, these people could make for very nasty enemies. I'd invest in a cheap video camera which will catch them in the act if there's anything criminal done to your property or any trespass. Even some of the fake cameras, and erect those in a prominent spot so that he sees them. If questioned - say that you saw a few suspicious folk hanging around and 'someone' you know has had a shed/garage/house broken into and items stolen. It may be enough to deter them from anything more serious. I know you shouldn't have to do that but it's often easier in the long run.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
They can do what they want on their own property, so long as they don't damage your property or break any planning laws. I'd be all for raising the fence, putting a root barrier along the boundary, and putting a discreet CCTV camera on your back garden. They sound like nasty people so if they do decide to damage any of your property you'll have evidence. Sadly with such people even the mildest request for consideration just acts as encouragement.
My mum had similar problems with neighbours who transformed a previously nice garden into an eyesore of mud, chicken coops, outhouses, and let their animals run amok into her garden. They also left a pile of hardcore on the street outside their house for months, making it hard for her to park. When she asked when they were thinking of getting rid of it, they got nasty. She moved house to get away from them
I'd agree about encouragement Will. The story about the dog (assuming it's true) tell you all you need to know about these people
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
And also the lights that they undoubtedly have in that area - that's why those blue-light fly zappers work - you could explain that if they keep the lights off except when they're using the tub, that may help.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Thank you so much for your replies and support. I think the hot humid atmosphere will attract flies as well as the lights. Not sure what lights they have but often hear a tv in the gazebo they have over the tub.
I've been out most of the day but took a wander round the garden when I came home. Couldn't see anything untoward but doubt I'll notice anything at the moment anyway. I do sympathise with those of you who have had problem neighbours, especially your mum Will.
Do try not to let it get under your skin. They may not be the neighbours you'd choose, but a peaceful life is worth a great deal
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Thanks Dove. I'll try.
Granma. I got a private message from you but it won't let me reply so I'll say thank you here. That's what I thought.