because men are cleverererer there should be a male presenter of gw. Just imagine it with a female presenter! It would be all annuals and "that's pretty", flowers on boots and flower arranging.
I would love to see a series of progs presented by Adrian Bloom on perennials and other expert growers and breeders of hellebores, heleniums, etc etc.
Verdun - naughty, naughty boy go stand in the corner - NOW ...
Agree with you about specialist presenters though - but I don't think it will happen unfortunately - tv companies want big audiences....
Heaven is ... sitting in the garden with a G&T and a cat while watching the sun go down
Even stuck in your far away corner of Cornwall you must have heard of Beth Chatto, Rosemary Verey, Gertrude Jekyll, Bunny Guinness, Vita Sackville-West, Joy Larckom, Sylvia Crowe, Arabelle Lennox-Boyd, Elizabeth Banks, Jekka McVicar, Sarah price - not pretty pretty gardeners at all but women who know their plants and how to grow and associate them to great effect.
Of the Soicety of Garden designers there are more than twice as many women as men in the membership. Surely you can't be aiding and abetting the Beeb in putting a green glass ceiling on women as gardening TV presenters and dumbing down gardening on TV?
Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
"The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
Absolutely in agreement Susan. i was lucky enough to have a chat with CB at his Chelsea garden one year and suggested he should do more Flying Gardens and even a Euro FG but nothing came of it. Loved his Hidden Gardens series too and would love to see more like that plus a follow up of the ones he visited then to see how they're getting on.
Yviestevie - it is no less valid for being repetitive. GW needs some oomph or a sister programme for newer gardeners and/or small gardens.
Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
"The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
Oh Susan - showing your age there - but you are so right. I wonder why they never repeat the old Geoff Hamilton programmes - I'd have thought they were pretty timeless and he never said "dig it up and throw it away and go and buy another one" - invaluable gardening advice for those of us that love to recycle and rebuild.
Have to agree that Uncle Geoff was the best GW presenter by a country mile. His move to Barnsdale coincided with my starting to garden & he really did teach me so much. I loved his friendly, inclusive style - you always felt he would get his hands dirty sorting out a problem for you rather than giving you a lecture about what you'd done wrong!
I second repeating all his GW series - I can't believe that the information will have dated much - the techniques certainly won't. The style will be very different to many modern programmes - but that can only be a good thing.
If we can have 7 programmes a week devoted to a dance competition, however many nights a week for Match of the Day and all the other tripe out there - surely to goodness the BBC can tuck in 2 or 3 episodes a week of this programme - even if it's in the wee small hours & we all have to record it!
Maybe we should start a petition....
Heaven is ... sitting in the garden with a G&T and a cat while watching the sun go down
Have to say Geoff had it all for me. I bought the BBC Collection DVD box set just before Christmas and my son bought me all three accompanying books which I'm really enjoying.
I think the thing with Geoff for me is I can't help learning things when I watch him. I don't find it with the later presenters at all and can find it hard to really form any opinions about any of it. If it is boring, it's because I'm either not learning anything, or they are doing things totally irrelevant to me, which can't be right because I do have a lot of interest in gardening and thirst for information and ideas.
I would love to see all the Geoff GW series repeated or made available on DVD.
Promised myself I wouldn't contribute to this thread...but can't help it
We are all different generations, and Monty Don is my Geoff Hamilton - i didn't have a garden when GH was on the telly. I learn loads from MD, and expect I will still be singing his praises in 20 years time, because he is "of my time". Same way as I still think Duran Duran and Spandau Ballet were the best bands ever.
But as well as being an excellent presenter, MD is one of my favourite authors too - he writes books that I love to read - even if they are mostly only tangentially related to gardening. A very talented man
Posts
Verdun - naughty, naughty boy go stand in the corner - NOW ...
Agree with you about specialist presenters though - but I don't think it will happen unfortunately - tv companies want big audiences....
Verdun!! You silly boy.
Even stuck in your far away corner of Cornwall you must have heard of Beth Chatto, Rosemary Verey, Gertrude Jekyll, Bunny Guinness, Vita Sackville-West, Joy Larckom, Sylvia Crowe, Arabelle Lennox-Boyd, Elizabeth Banks, Jekka McVicar, Sarah price - not pretty pretty gardeners at all but women who know their plants and how to grow and associate them to great effect.
Of the Soicety of Garden designers there are more than twice as many women as men in the membership. Surely you can't be aiding and abetting the Beeb in putting a green glass ceiling on women as gardening TV presenters and dumbing down gardening on TV?
I think Verdun was just trying to add a bit of humour to this very boring debate that has been held more times than I care to mention.
Absolutely in agreement Susan. i was lucky enough to have a chat with CB at his Chelsea garden one year and suggested he should do more Flying Gardens and even a Euro FG but nothing came of it. Loved his Hidden Gardens series too and would love to see more like that plus a follow up of the ones he visited then to see how they're getting on.
Yviestevie - it is no less valid for being repetitive. GW needs some oomph or a sister programme for newer gardeners and/or small gardens.
Oh Susan - showing your age there - but you are so right. I wonder why they never repeat the old Geoff Hamilton programmes - I'd have thought they were pretty timeless and he never said "dig it up and throw it away and go and buy another one" - invaluable gardening advice for those of us that love to recycle and rebuild.
Charlie - where would he keep his telly?
Have to agree that Uncle Geoff was the best GW presenter by a country mile. His move to Barnsdale coincided with my starting to garden & he really did teach me so much. I loved his friendly, inclusive style - you always felt he would get his hands dirty sorting out a problem for you rather than giving you a lecture about what you'd done wrong!
I second repeating all his GW series - I can't believe that the information will have dated much - the techniques certainly won't. The style will be very different to many modern programmes - but that can only be a good thing.
If we can have 7 programmes a week devoted to a dance competition, however many nights a week for Match of the Day and all the other tripe out there - surely to goodness the BBC can tuck in 2 or 3 episodes a week of this programme - even if it's in the wee small hours & we all have to record it!
Maybe we should start a petition....
Oh Topbird - that is such a brilliant idea, but I fear it would not come to pass.
Beachgrove is the closest with the lovely presenters Jim? and Carol just like a kindly Uncle and Aunt.
Have to say Geoff had it all for me. I bought the BBC Collection DVD box set just before Christmas and my son bought me all three accompanying books which I'm really enjoying.
I think the thing with Geoff for me is I can't help learning things when I watch him. I don't find it with the later presenters at all and can find it hard to really form any opinions about any of it. If it is boring, it's because I'm either not learning anything, or they are doing things totally irrelevant to me, which can't be right because I do have a lot of interest in gardening and thirst for information and ideas.
I would love to see all the Geoff GW series repeated or made available on DVD.
Promised myself I wouldn't contribute to this thread...but can't help it
We are all different generations, and Monty Don is my Geoff Hamilton - i didn't have a garden when GH was on the telly. I learn loads from MD, and expect I will still be singing his praises in 20 years time, because he is "of my time". Same way as I still think Duran Duran and Spandau Ballet were the best bands ever
.
But as well as being an excellent presenter, MD is one of my favourite authors too - he writes books that I love to read - even if they are mostly only tangentially related to gardening. A very talented man