Pruning Group 3 and Group 2 Clematis where the first buds are pretty high up

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• Pink678 Posts: 498

  17 February

  Thanks for coming into the thread Richard, much appreciated

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• Busy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043

  17 February

  Thorncroft Clematis say that it's a group 3, not 2.
  https://www.thorncroftclematis.co.uk/clematis-sally-evipo077-8537-p
  

  Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.

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• richardhodson Posts: 36

  17 February

  Also to add to the confusion, Sarah Raven says, Early Large Flowered Group, Group 3 pruning ?       I don't grow many of the large flowered clematis so I am only reading what is online.  Apologies.

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• Pink678 Posts: 498

  17 February edited 17 February

  No need to apologise, it's good for me to check as I'm very new to gardening! All input very much appreciated.
  

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• Obelixx Posts: 30,090

  17 February

  This website, run by a university and not by a commercial nursery, says it's a Group 2 - https://clematisontheweb.org/clemdetail/?dbkey=3926 
  
  

  Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
  

  "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."

  Plato
  

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• Pink678 Posts: 498

  17 February edited 17 February

  I am very glad I posted today. If it's Group 2 that'll make quite a difference to what pruning I do.
  

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• Plantminded Posts: 3,580

  17 February

  Raymond Evison, breeder of Sally, divides modern Clematis into just pruning two categories:
  
  https://www.raymondevisonclematis.com/pages/simple-pruning
  
  Details of Sally:
  
  https://www.raymondevisonclematis.com/products/sally
  

  Wirral. Sandy, free draining soil.
  
  
  

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• Pink678 Posts: 498

  17 February edited 17 February

  I don't quite understand this, but on the RHS site it says both Group 2 and Group 3 in the pruning section for Sally Evipo 077:

  "Pruning
  Pruning (clematis) group 2, light prune for early flowers. Remove dead and damaged stems before growth begins in early spring. Trim all remaining stems to strong buds. Hard prune for easy-care option using Pruning (clematis) group 3"

  https://www.rhs.org.uk/plants/337344/clematis-evipo077/details

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• Plantminded Posts: 3,580

  17 February

  I’d follow the breeder’s advice for that variety @Pink678.

  Wirral. Sandy, free draining soil.
  
  
  

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• Pink678 Posts: 498

  17 February

  Thank you @Plantminded I looked at the link for sally, and it says "Remove all top growth down to 6" (15cm) late winter/early Spring" which I suppose would be like Group 3 pruning then ...
  

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