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Pre-diabetes cookbook

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  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    @Lizzie27 I have had fruit and fibre cereal for my breakfast for years.  My wife tried it a few weeks ago, liked it, and has been having it ever since!  He blood test was done on Tuesday this week.  That may explain why she has never been told she is pre-diabetic in the past.
  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 12,494
    edited April 2023
    Fingers crossed @KT53. The Sainsbury's version, which I prefer, is less sweet than the Kelloggs one - and cheaper!

    There is such an 'epidemic' of diabetes at the moment that I think the G.P's are being a tad over cautious. It's a bit of a nudge, nudge to encourage most people to lose weight.
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    I've started using the Tesco own brand version.  Literally 1/3rd the price of Kelloggs.  My wife has been having regular blood tests for a few years and nothing like that has ever shown before.  Hopefully it was down what she had eaten prior to the tests.  They were not fasting blood tests.
  • MikeOxgreenMikeOxgreen Posts: 812
    The first thing to do is not take any notice of Pansyface when it comes to diets, I don't think i've ever come across a more misinformed, deluded individual. The second is to broaden your search by including the word 'Keto'.
    Keto is a 100% pure rigid diet which has to be strictly adhered to, but you/they does not have to go that far if you don't want, 'Low carb' will maybe suit better and it's more flexible.
    The NHS is decades behind understanding diets which is why we have a faux doctor on here spouting outdated rubbish.

    If you love carbs and sugar (who doesn't?) it's hard work, but worth it. It's a total change of lifestyle.
    Learn the difference between above and below ground veg.
    Ask your Doctor to send you on the course.

    I'm just watching TV as I type, 23 million crumpets are consumed in the UK per week it says. That's not the most popular food I can think of so gives some scale to the problem we have with carbs and T2D.
    If you want me to recommend some recipe books let me know, but they are like any: Try the recipe, then change it to suit your taste whilst still keeping it healthy. What we've found is some sling litres of lemon juice into everything for some reason so we've had to cut back on that as it was foul (to me).
    Good luck and stick at it otherwise you'll be on your own before you know it.
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    @MikeOxgreen I am very much a real Dr., but please enlighten me as to the rubbish I speak, which incidentally has been very useful to a number of forum users and has certainly shown you to be wrong in the past.

    @Catherine Mansley please review the previous post, it is very rude and probably libellous.
    How can you lie there and think of England
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  • Jenny_AsterJenny_Aster Posts: 945
    edited April 2023
    I agree @MikeOxgreen wasn't wise to write the first couple of lines of his post. 

    Completely agree with the rest of his post though, I'm not a doctor, but I live the life of someone who's just tripped over from pre to being type 2 diabetes. By cutting out a sugary breakfast on the day of a blood test for diabetes isn't correct. The test has to be done before any food or drink (except water) on that day of the test. The test measures the state of blood cells from the previous 6 weeks or so (about the life of a blood cell), so changing your diet the day or days before a blood test is useless. 

    Keto has been proven to reverse diabetes with many sufferers coming off their meds by recommendation by their GPs. Its benefits was an eye opener for me, not least that many doctors didn't know what keto was when I first came across it, there were one or two who thought it crazy (so I kept quiet), preferring we follow the diet of Ancel Keys, who's low fat research has been found to be deeply skewed. 

    A couple months ago I needed to be in hospital for 10 days, there was hardly any way I could follow a low carb diet to control my blood sugar there, considering over 50% of us patients had been diagnosed with diabetes. IMO more should be done to help patients control their diabetes without the use of drugs.

    Because of all the ignorance, myths and superstitions surrounding diabetes, it's why I suggested the diabetes.co.uk forum. You'll get all the latest research there, and discussions about it, including help for pre diabetes. If any misinformation is written, the moderators step in pronto.

    These days I don't do keto (love my root veg too much), preferring to stick to low carb.
    Trying to be the person my dog thinks I am! 

    Cambridgeshire/Norfolk border.
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    @Jenny_Aster the main point I pick up from your post is that using the blood sample provided by my wife to test for diabetes was pointless.  They were not fasting tests, they were not done until early afternoon.  My wife had been eating fruit and fibre breakfast cereal for a few weeks prior to the latest blood tests, prior to that she rarely ate breakfast anyway.  She has an appointment with her doctor next week and will see what she is told there.
    I'm not inclined to take too much notice of anybody who starts their post by insulting other posters.
  • edited April 2023
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    Completely agree with the rest of his post though, I'm not a doctor, but I live the life of someone who's just tripped over from pre to being type 2 diabetes. By cutting out a sugary breakfast on the day of a blood test for diabetes isn't correct. The test has to be done before any food or drink (except water) on that day of the test. The test measures the state of blood cells from the previous 6 weeks or so (about the life of a blood cell), so changing your diet the day or days before a blood test is useless. 


    Actually there are two types of blood test. One measures A1C, which indicates the average blood sugar over the last ~3 months, which is the average life of a red blood cell (not 6 weeks). This can only be done by a lab so you have to give a sample of blood. This is not affected by eating or not eating a few hours beforehand. The other test can be done at home with a finger prick, but this measures your blood sugar at that moment, and it goes up after a meal, so timing is relevant.
  • Jenny_AsterJenny_Aster Posts: 945
    ....which is the average life of a red blood cell (not 6 weeks). 
    120 days apparently - 17 Weeks. 

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8006275/#:~:text=Normal human red blood cells,they are engulfed by macrophages.

    KT53 said:
    @Jenny_Aster the main point I pick up from your post is that using the blood sample provided by my wife to test for diabetes was pointless.  They were not fasting tests, they were not done until early afternoon.  My wife had been eating fruit and fibre breakfast cereal for a few weeks prior to the latest blood tests, prior to that she rarely ate breakfast anyway.  She has an appointment with her doctor next week and will see what she is told there.
    I'm not inclined to take too much notice of anybody who starts their post by insulting other posters.
    I never said that your wife's blood test was pointless, I'm presuming your wife had the A1C test as Alan described above which is normally taken on a fast.

    Think my point has been made, it's wise to seek advice from a more specialist forum.



    Trying to be the person my dog thinks I am! 

    Cambridgeshire/Norfolk border.
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