Taken to the logical conclusion, the whole idea of marriage along with forbidding sex outside marriage, was so that men could be reasonably sure that their partner's children were also their children, which is/was necessary for a patriarchal system of inheritance etc to work. Of course many people choose to be monogamous without being married and many choose not to be when they are married, so these days I think it's purely an individual (actually two individuals') choice.
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I have a very strong personal dislike for the idea that cheating is acceptable. I believe that love is based on trust and respect. If an open relationship is acceptable to both parties that’s fine but the whole idea of lying and deceiving your partner by having sex with another person without the knowledge and consent of your partner is wrong to me. It’s not a religious thing, it’s about not hurting someone you claim to care about.
Affairs ruin lives. They hurt people.
This is only my opinion but I think that a man who so publicly behaved so very badly lacks all credibility as the King of anywhere. We live in a modern world and the mystique of monarchy is over. I just saw two selfish people being made a big fuss of at the expense of a country where so many cannot afford to heat their homes or feed their children. If that is history leave me out of it.
Charles says he didn’t sleep with Camilla until his marriage was to all intents and purposes over. No one has proved differently.
The fact that he continued to feel deeply about Camilla even after he and she were married to other people is sad, but it doesn’t mean that he was unfaithful.
It simply means that his relatives (Queen Mother and Mountbatten) persuaded/bullied a shy man who was emotionally immature (because of his upbringing and his family’s insistence on duty above all) to marry someone who was totally incompatible with him simply because she was ‘suitable’ ie an aristocratic virgin.
Diana also had well documented affairs after her relationship had broken down but while still technically married. Don’t forget that back then the idea of an heir to the throne getting a divorce was unthinkable. The accepted thing was to pretend all was well while having other relationships discreetly. Then Diana gave an interview…
Camilla's first marriage was also a disaster … her husband was a serial philanderer virtually since their wedding night … it was well known and the gossip columns back then were full of it.
She and Charles suit each other down to the ground … thank goodness they can now be content together.
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I suppose you could say that Charles was "doing his duty" when he married - I suspect none of us here on the forum can really conceive the pressure he was put under to marry someone with whom he had nothing in common simply in order to provide the requisite heirs. From a personal point of view, I don't particularly find Charles an attractive personality but he and Camilla seem to suit each other pretty well so perhaps we should forget their past and let them get on with what time they have left together. I can't honestly see many people in this country, whether they approve of the monarchy or not, voting to stone Camilla to death - or, for the sake of equality - Charles too simply for making the wrong choice all those years ago. Plenty of others have made precisely the same mistake in their lives. Edited to add ............I see that @Dovefromabove has posted in a similar vein so ignore the above
Sorry I don’t believe a word of it. Nobody can prove things either way but I believe, as so many others, that the affair was ongoing throughout his Marriage to Diana.
Nobody wants to stone anyone I don’t think. I just don’t want to be asked to curtsey to such people for whom I have absolutely no respect. ( rhetorically I mean, I wouldn’t willingly be anywhere near either of them)
Given that, had Charles not produced heirs, the next in line after him would’ve been Andrew, I imagine the pressure was huuuuge!
So a choice between the head of the Church of England, an adulterer, or an alleged underage shagger? You're doing a grand job of defending the royalty.
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Well said.
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From a personal point of view, I don't particularly find Charles an attractive personality but he and Camilla seem to suit each other pretty well so perhaps we should forget their past and let them get on with what time they have left together.
I can't honestly see many people in this country, whether they approve of the monarchy or not, voting to stone Camilla to death - or, for the sake of equality - Charles too simply for making the wrong choice all those years ago. Plenty of others have made precisely the same mistake in their lives.
Edited to add ............I see that @Dovefromabove has posted in a similar vein so ignore the above
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You're doing a grand job of defending the royalty.