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Mature palm trees dying all over?

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  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Rhubarb needs lots of feeding so large trees or shrubs close by can have an effect on the health of the soil. I've not grown it for a long time so I can't really remember all the ins and outs, but it's pretty easy here as the soil and conditions suit it.

    If you want to grow it, it would be better to ask on a new thread as those who grow it won't necessarily look here, because the thread title has no connection to rhubarb.  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • Fran IOMFran IOM Posts: 2,872



    Going back to the original post the pic is of two neighbouring palm trees which were planted from seed many years ago. One is obviously dead and the other seems to be surviving ok. We consider them to be Manx palms and I have noticed that there are many dead along the promenade. It seems sad when you feel that it's taken them years to mature only to see them dying off. 
  • @Heather Reed your absolutely correct these tree's are dying all over south Manchester, it's nothing to do with the weather we've had colder longer winters than this, the beast from the east being one, we've also had hotter summer's 2018 saw a huge draught after the beast from the east, so this past 12 month's has been nothing unusual.

    And for all the egotistical big head's who give one's opinion on things not asked!  no one asked you, if you like the plants or not,  or where you come from or what you grow, no one cares 🤣

    Good observation Heather, it's strange isn't it.
  • bédébédé Posts: 3,095
    edited February 2023
    Fairygirl said:
    Rhubarb
    If you want to grow it, it would be better to ask on a new thread 
    Well said,  Some threads stick to the original theme but just go on and on.  Others take a completely new tack.
     location: Surrey Hills, England, ex-woodland acidic sand.
    "Have nothing in your garden that you don't know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful."
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    If you read the info properly @gazcall10rmsqamtx, you'd see that the weather over the last year or so has been different from most in many parts of the UK.
    Mild and wet then dropping to freezing/frost/ice/ very quickly is totally different from dry cold- even quite sharp dry cold. Cordylines can cope with lots of heat, lots of wet, and also lots of cold if the drainage is right.
    A big swing between conditions/temps isn't the same for plants as a normal period of weather where that happens more slowly, whether the weather has been hot or cold, wet or dry. A gradual decline into winter conditions isn't the same as a sudden one either, which is certainly what we had up here.  :)

    This winter has had extreme swings in conditions which is why it's not just cordylines that have suffered.  
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • @gazcall10rmsqamtx well I’m certain mr monty will say something if there’s anything to be said on the matter, this feed isn’t going anywhere fast so if/when any virus is announced it can be inserted right here 😂
    I’m quite annoyed both my
    palms are dead, all that growing for all them years for nothing…. 😔 
    Whatisthis?
  • @Heather Reed It is upsetting to say the least when you loose a plant that has played such a large part in the shape and character of your garden. I hope in time you see a creative opportunity to plant something else. This could be the start of your garden moving on to another 'level'. As we become more experienced in our gardens that is what happens, we create a new look.With more knowledge to hand it is always an improvement.Gardens never stand still.
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • @Fairygirl Thanks for the update I agree with sudden difference's in weather conditions it can effect plants, but in the case of the Cordylines in Manchester they are dying everywhere, I'm a head greenkeeper and have worked outside for over 20 year's, we have had lots of extreme weather in the past decades and the tree's have survived? It's very strange that this year's weather was that different or extreme that all or most of the Cordylines are dying!  well they are in Manchester anyway. I can't speak for the rest of the UK.

    And yes @Heather Reed very disappointing for us the tree's brought a little bit of exotica to Manchester 😂

    Take care all x
  • @gazcall10rmsqamtx The weather hear in November was very wet and the ground was saturated. The ground then became frozen for at least two weeks so the frost was deep. Plants can often deal with a couple of very cold nights but continuous frosts for more than four nights is when damage occurs. I think the two things in succession may be the cause.
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • @GardenerSuze possibly could be a number of things, who knows just can't see a huge difference in the weather in the past 12 month's that was so different to any other in the 50 years or so that the trees have lived. Weird 
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