I have been happy with Peter Beales, David Austin and Notcutts. Worth getting the catalogue from the 1st two for winter planning.
Referring back to the planting advice earlier on this thread. I have old roses: Gallica in variety and a couple of Albas. I plant them deep and let them run about in my sandy, rather shady garden.
I notice in a couple of National Trust gardens that their Rosa Mundi are not suckering. If that is the control you want, buy a grafted plant and don't bury the graft.
I can recommend Rosa gallica 'Charles de Mills' for a deep red-purple, but it is only once-flowering.
location: Surrey Hills, England, ex-woodland acidic sand. "Have nothing in your garden that you don't know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful."
Good suggestions there @Nollie and @bédé, thank you. I have Rosa g.Officinalis and Rosa alba 'Celeste' and 'Queen of Denmark' and these have done very well up near the house so I ought to try a red or two. The woodland areas may be too shady unless I can find a place at the edge. No stumbling across anything today @Nollie, paddling maybe! Not quite that bad but everywhere very waterlogged. But nice to plan ahead for next year.
Charles de Mills is one of the few roses that I wouldn’t bury the graft, I don’t grow it (wrong climate) but by all accounts, if happy it suckers on it’s own roots like crazy and can form a large thicket. Great if you have the space, I imagine..
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
I have Rosa g.Officinalis and Rosa alba 'Celeste' and 'Queen of Denmark'
Me too.
Officinalis is a good glowing red. Or at least my "officinalis" is, but I never bought it. It is a reversion from Rosa Mundi, so guess it might be slightly different from one with a better pedigree.
I will post a pic in June for your comments.
location: Surrey Hills, England, ex-woodland acidic sand. "Have nothing in your garden that you don't know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful."
This was my Apothecary's rose in June @bede. My phone camera isn't good at capturing reds, but overall I'd say my rose is a very deep pink, deeper than it looks on here. Such tough roses, once-flowering but they give a good show don't they?
^very pretty rose isn't it.. if anybody looking in wants a very similar looking rose with continuous bloom form, then I recommend 'The Herbalist' from David Austin Roses. It looks identical, as the name implies but flowers continuously and puts on a bold show. I used to have a group of 3..
Rosa Mundi, the one we grow today, interestingly is an improved from of the original 16thC rose.. Gertrude Jekyll noted there were 2 in cultivation, one has since superseded the other..
That's interesting @bede, thanks for posting the photos. Your 'officinalis' looks like mine, but the reverted 'Rosa mundi' is a deeper colour by the look of it, as you said earlier. And growing among trees too. Food for thought.....
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I have been happy with Peter Beales, David Austin and Notcutts. Worth getting the catalogue from the 1st two for winter planning.
Referring back to the planting advice earlier on this thread. I have old roses: Gallica in variety and a couple of Albas. I plant them deep and let them run about in my sandy, rather shady garden.
I notice in a couple of National Trust gardens that their Rosa Mundi are not suckering. If that is the control you want, buy a grafted plant and don't bury the graft.
I can recommend Rosa gallica 'Charles de Mills' for a deep red-purple, but it is only once-flowering.
"Have nothing in your garden that you don't know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful."
I have Rosa g.Officinalis and Rosa alba 'Celeste' and 'Queen of Denmark' and these have done very well up near the house so I ought to try a red or two. The woodland areas may be too shady unless I can find a place at the edge.
No stumbling across anything today @Nollie, paddling maybe! Not quite that bad but everywhere very waterlogged. But nice to plan ahead for next year.
Officinalis is a good glowing red. Or at least my "officinalis" is, but I never bought it. It is a reversion from Rosa Mundi, so guess it might be slightly different from one with a better pedigree.
I will post a pic in June for your comments.
"Have nothing in your garden that you don't know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful."
Such tough roses, once-flowering but they give a good show don't they?
Rosa Mundi, the one we grow today, interestingly is an improved from of the original 16thC rose.. Gertrude Jekyll noted there were 2 in cultivation, one has since superseded the other..
"Have nothing in your garden that you don't know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful."
Above, what I call "officinalis".
Here, Rosa Mundi running around in quite a lot of shade. And reverting.
"Have nothing in your garden that you don't know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful."
Your 'officinalis' looks like mine, but the reverted 'Rosa mundi' is a deeper colour by the look of it, as you said earlier.
And growing among trees too.
Food for thought.....