Nice to see you back @Nollie .. I had a feeling something untoward had happened and you had to rush off suddenly.. best wishes to your Mum and family..
.. of course I just knew a certain rose would be heading your way.. delighted about that..
Thanks both 😊 Well I have managed to buy twice the amount of roses than I downsized, so no idea where they are all going. I might have to invest in a series of large pots to put against the north hedge if it turns out I like most of them!
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
I promised Harry White @HarryWhite some obelisk photos, so here are a few.. I hope it gives you some inspiration. There's no need to rearrange yours if you've planted in the middle, they will grow up alright..
Orientation of the rose can be quite important as the flowers and top growth will aim in the warmest direction, usually E-South if it's not blocked. This 'Tottering by Gently' rose was planted E-S. I would have preferred to have planted it on the North side but I couldn't do that. Hence the growth will be away from the obelisk, to the right. I get around this by tying the canes tight to the structure and around it and through it, so I get flowers all around the support.. ..from top.. .. to bottom.. the left side is north-W facing. If I didn't train the canes around I wouldn't get many flowers on that side.. ..this rose is 'Scented Garden'.. it gets little sun from the E-S, right of picture, as it's blocked by the house. So all the flowers and growth is to the left - West facing, which is where it gets the afternoon sunshine. If I didn't have an obelisk the rose would be somewhat unruly, and unstable because of the shady situation. I tie it back to the support and around the right, so I get some flowering on the sunless side [right].. I think it creates a nice effect..
..this 6 foot obelisk is being renovated.. ..the rose was planted on the north side, so naturally grew towards the South side but retaining north facing canes, with judicial pruning lower down, I got blooms all around it.. this is a May photo just before flowering showing the base area.. In June it smothers the obelisk.. with a clematis on another side, and a purple Geranium in the centre which climbs and surrounds the base.. This effect appeals to me very much and is the way I like to do things.. this view is from the South side, where it flowers best..
..it's very easy really, enjoy your obelisk roses !... experiment a little, see what you like and what you don't..
Sorry to hear about your mother @Nollie, all the best to her and the undoubtably complicated arrangements needed,
Sunny today so got on with some pruning and defoliating. I cut off lots of buds which is a bit but I think that I'd like the roses to experience some dormancy before Spring. Talking of whichSome casualties of the prune
@Nollie, sorry to hear about your mum. My mum is in a different country and has health issues. I so much wish I could be near her to help.
You have ordered nice roses, looking forward to photos next year. Its ok to have some pots (I have complained all summer about watering them and will be downsizing etc and have not removed a single rose yet. Blaming it to all the photos from cooldoc and tack)
@Marlorena, beautiful obelisks covered in roses and companions.
@Tack lovely bouquet from casualties of the prune.
My pruning project has come to a complete halt after little one fell sick. Now she is better but now I have got assigned a whole lot of work to finish in my job before Christmas break. I was trying to be proactive but looks like I will end up pruning in March/April again!
Thanks Tack and Newbie, the elderly parent dilemma comes to us all at some point, but yes it’s hard being so far away.
Pots are tricky here unless the pot itself is shaded as the roots tend to fry. I’m trying to cut them down but that and rose downsizing in general never seems to happen due to my pitiful lack of self-control!
I like the rose/clematis/geranium combo Marlorena. I have the bourbon rose Mme. de Sévigné against an obelisk with a purple clem in the middle but the latter died right back before it got going this year. If it doesn’t return I might try your geranium idea and see if that works better, since I have an Orion going spare. Someone who no longer posts on here (gartner?) used to grow a pale lavender solanum with a climbing rose, that might be better still in my sun.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
@Marlorena this looks stunning. Which varieties are the rose and clematis? How many seasons does it take to look like this if growing from a bare root in Autumn? Very eager to try this.
I also wanted to get an arch across a garden path and grow a climber over it. Trouble is there is minimal space on one side (just enough to secure the arch). What climbers would go all the way over the arch from just one side or would most do this?
@Nollie sorry to hear about your mum. Hope she makes a speedy recovery.
I posted a question earlier today about what climbing plants I could grow in pots up a pergola which we have just built. It seems like climbing roses and clematis would be the best idea so it was suggested that I post in this thread to find out what people think would be good climbing roses for a large pot?
I live in South Devon so it’s fairly mild, my back garden faces North however the pergola is in the far corner which gets the sun for most of the day. The pergola actually faces East so will get the morning sun as well. I’m happy with any colours suggested as the backdrop to the pergola doesn’t have any colours that might clash, only greenery. I’ve attached a photo showing that at the moment it’s a complete blank canvas, the pergola will be moved forward away from our wall when we get some extra manpower!
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.. of course I just knew a certain rose would be heading your way.. delighted about that..
Best of luck with your German rose order..
Orientation of the rose can be quite important as the flowers and top growth will aim in the warmest direction, usually E-South if it's not blocked.
This 'Tottering by Gently' rose was planted E-S. I would have preferred to have planted it on the North side but I couldn't do that. Hence the growth will be away from the obelisk, to the right. I get around this by tying the canes tight to the structure and around it and through it, so I get flowers all around the support..
..from top..
.. to bottom.. the left side is north-W facing. If I didn't train the canes around I wouldn't get many flowers on that side..
..this rose is 'Scented Garden'.. it gets little sun from the E-S, right of picture, as it's blocked by the house. So all the flowers and growth is to the left - West facing, which is where it gets the afternoon sunshine. If I didn't have an obelisk the rose would be somewhat unruly, and unstable because of the shady situation. I tie it back to the support and around the right, so I get some flowering on the sunless side [right].. I think it creates a nice effect..
..this 6 foot obelisk is being renovated..
..the rose was planted on the north side, so naturally grew towards the South side but retaining north facing canes, with judicial pruning lower down, I got blooms all around it.. this is a May photo just before flowering showing the base area..
In June it smothers the obelisk.. with a clematis on another side, and a purple Geranium in the centre which climbs and surrounds the base.. This effect appeals to me very much and is the way I like to do things.. this view is from the South side, where it flowers best..
..it's very easy really, enjoy your obelisk roses !... experiment a little, see what you like and what you don't..
You have ordered nice roses, looking forward to photos next year. Its ok to have some pots (I have complained all summer about watering them and will be downsizing etc and have not removed a single rose yet. Blaming it to all the photos from cooldoc and tack)
@Marlorena, beautiful obelisks covered in roses and companions.
@Tack lovely bouquet from casualties of the prune.
My pruning project has come to a complete halt after little one fell sick. Now she is better but now I have got assigned a whole lot of work to finish in my job before Christmas break. I was trying to be proactive but looks like I will end up pruning in March/April again!
The only roses still in bloom here are now LoS, PAoK, Adam Messerich and (unexpectedly) Gertrude Jekyll.
I ordered a couple of roses from DA after a glass of wine on Saturday night and they were despatched this afternoon- very fast!🍷
@Tack gorgeous posy
@Marlorena your Armada is a thing of beauty.🌹
Pots are tricky here unless the pot itself is shaded as the roots tend to fry. I’m trying to cut them down but that and rose downsizing in general never seems to happen due to my pitiful lack of self-control!
I like the rose/clematis/geranium combo Marlorena. I have the bourbon rose Mme. de Sévigné against an obelisk with a purple clem in the middle but the latter died right back before it got going this year. If it doesn’t return I might try your geranium idea and see if that works better, since I have an Orion going spare. Someone who no longer posts on here (gartner?) used to grow a pale lavender solanum with a climbing rose, that might be better still in my sun.
I also wanted to get an arch across a garden path and grow a climber over it. Trouble is there is minimal space on one side (just enough to secure the arch). What climbers would go all the way over the arch from just one side or would most do this?
@Nollie sorry to hear about your mum. Hope she makes a speedy recovery.