I didn't prune any of the bare roots unless it has some dieback or dead spindly canes. I did trim roots a bit if it was not fitting in the pot. I don't plant on ground until spring and pot up bare roots because my garden gets very wet and soggy in winter.
Thanks for kind words, I am a little bit better today. Hopefully next week will try to go in the garden.
Good to hear you're feeling a bit better @newbie77.
@Lizzie27, I received G de F as a bare root in winter 2020 and planted it 'temporarily' in a raised veg bed ( rich, friable soil). I didn't prune it. In 2021 it grew lots of healthy foliage and small flowering shoots but produced no new basals. Very healthy and happy though. I transplanted it from the very good enriched soil of the veg bed in spring this year, so it had been planted 'temporarily' for 15 months! I found that the roots had grown really well and extensively. This summer it has flowered almost constantly, and has produced one very good basal shoot and a smaller one. I think the above bears out what we so often read, here and elsewhere, that energy goes into roots for the first year. Hope this helps.
Woodgreen, are the MWs the ones in the 2L pots? I did pot mine on but the roots were pretty tiny and probably they didn't need to be potted on. The DA/TW potted rose sized pots would have easily been big enough to pot them on into.
That looks good, Lizzie... I might bite the bullet and get Souvenir du Docteur Jamain from Ashridge. This rose has been calling my name for a while.
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DeeLish, Rozanne still flowering in November, Adam Messerich, Lady of Shalott, clematis Wisley Cream, Gabriel, Henri Delbard, Queen Elizabeth
@WhereAreMySecateurs, yes they're in small pots but when I looked at the roots..... I think what I'm going to do is plant them in a veg bed (it's like a luxury hotel for plants.) Hopefully this will have the same effect on their roots as it did on G de F. 🤞 But as my ground is all super-saturated at the moment and just in case we get a wet winter I hope to make some sort of cloche to let air through but keep rain off them. I've got some corrugated plastic that I can make something with. Where there's life there's hope. 🙂
Lizzie, Mr Vine Eyes has it on a house/fence corner I think.Mine is on a fence down the shady side path of the house. I just planted mine as a potted rose in June20. I haven't pruned it much, just fanned it out last winter and fixed to the fence. It has grown new basals since. This year I will take out the 2 canes that have grown forwards, there are enough others at the back. It is vigorous and healthy.
Thanks very much @Tack, pleased to learn that yours did well in a shady spot as that will be the same as mine until it grows to the top of the trellis fence. I also intend to keep it cut back at the front as it's in a corner of our 'orchard'. Can't wait till next year!
Great photos WAMS, love that shot of LoS. Mine is looking rather wan at the moment, think it’s telling me it needs more sun..
Owd, I don’t recall the hard pruned bare roots I got from PB producing any more basals than bigger ones from other nurseries that I didn’t prune hard. I suspect it doesn’t matter much in the end and that basal-inducing practices such as burying the graft, removing weak canes then subsequent annual pruning, occasional removal of old, woody canes and good cultivation matter more.
BTW if any new rose growers haven’t the foggiest what we are going on about or are not familiar with the lingo please ask. I could do a rough guide to rose-speak if that helps!
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Thanks @Nollie, Good to know. FWIW, I have checked my roses and of the 11 that I have planted over last 2 seasons, 2 have produced new basals, these are GdF & Vanessa Bell. I suspect you are correct that it won't make much of a difference.
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Thanks for kind words, I am a little bit better today. Hopefully next week will try to go in the garden.
@Lizzie27,
I received G de F as a bare root in winter 2020 and planted it 'temporarily' in a raised veg bed ( rich, friable soil). I didn't prune it.
In 2021 it grew lots of healthy foliage and small flowering shoots but produced no new basals. Very healthy and happy though.
I transplanted it from the very good enriched soil of the veg bed in spring this year, so it had been planted 'temporarily' for 15 months!
I found that the roots had grown really well and extensively.
This summer it has flowered almost constantly, and has produced one very good basal shoot and a smaller one.
I think the above bears out what we so often read, here and elsewhere, that energy goes into roots for the first year.
Hope this helps.
I think what I'm going to do is plant them in a veg bed (it's like a luxury hotel for plants.) Hopefully this will have the same effect on their roots as it did on G de F. 🤞
But as my ground is all super-saturated at the moment and just in case we get a wet winter I hope to make some sort of cloche to let air through but keep rain off them. I've got some corrugated plastic that I can make something with.
Where there's life there's hope. 🙂
Thanks for your notes on your GdeF @Woodgreen.
Was it @Mr Vine Eye or @Tack that grew GdF up the side of his house? Anything to add please?
Owd, I don’t recall the hard pruned bare roots I got from PB producing any more basals than bigger ones from other nurseries that I didn’t prune hard. I suspect it doesn’t matter much in the end and that basal-inducing practices such as burying the graft, removing weak canes then subsequent annual pruning, occasional removal of old, woody canes and good cultivation matter more.
BTW if any new rose growers haven’t the foggiest what we are going on about or are not familiar with the lingo please ask. I could do a rough guide to rose-speak if that helps!
Good to know.
FWIW, I have checked my roses and of the 11 that I have planted over last 2 seasons, 2 have produced new basals, these are GdF & Vanessa Bell.
I suspect you are correct that it won't make much of a difference.