@Nollie Sorry, I’m fairly new to the forum, I should have expanded my answer. But I think, I could be wrong, I was asked about pruning Munstead Wood to make it a stronger shrub. I did the David Austin pruning course and I was following the advice given by them. But as I said I should have made it clearer and differentiated between shrubs, climbers and ramblers. The advice of using a measuring gauge on first year DA shrub roses was something I learned on the course from Steve, David Austin’s head gardener. I’m sorry if I have offended anyone.
Hi @rossdriscoll13, It was my enquiry that you answered and I understood your response to be in respect of MW. I have read DA pruning advice too of course, and which I think is rather generic in referring to 'all' of their shrub roses which, as we know, do vary somewhat in their growth habits. I had wondered therefore whether any tips on modifications of that generic advice might be known by anyone who has or does grow it. I'm sure that no offence has been taken by anyone, the others are simply clarifying the advice for the sake of anyone who may tune into the forum.
Thanks, @rossdriscoll13, that's useful. I have a couple of Austins coming that can get big (like Graham Thomas) but I would prefer to keep them within bounds.
@HarryWhite what a view. And your MH is lovely there
Spirit of Freedom - This bloom managed to open fully in spite of a heavy rain.
Falstaff : Eglantyne: Pat Austin: Wild Edric: Cymbeline: Dee-Lish: such a lovely strong fruity scent Charles Rennie Mackintosh: fully opened tiny bloom
Great roses @Rojas, I especially like the dusky lilac of Sprit of Freedom, plus I’m looking forward to getting Falstaff, another excellent bloom there.
@owd potter I have four Musteads, one in it’s second season and the others a well established trio. I’m not sure if I can add anything further than my previous pruning suggestions, which were based on assessing the actual specimen in your photo rather than generic. There is no magic to DA roses or magic pruning technique and individual specimens vary enormously even within the same variety, which is why applying your eye is useful. My trio were very strong-caned from the start, for example, although their typically awkward architecture needed some corrective shaping, they needed very little intervention overall. My newbie looks more like yours, with splayed canes flopping at the sides so that requires a little harder winter pruning.
Anyway, we have several months before we need to concern ourselves with annual pruning, perhaps putting roses to bed for winter would be a more useful topic of discussion at the mo!
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Thanks @Nollie, It's all good. I wasn't discounting your tips, which are gratefully received, and very well founded. I agree that we should assess the particular specimen being dealt with and why I think that it's the DA pruning guide that could be seen as somewhat generic, not what you have suggested. More bare root planting is the next thing on my horizon, followed by about 200 bulbs thereafter
Had a delivery from Trevor White today, Baby Faurax, English Garden and Hippolyte. Had to just chuck them in a bucket for now.
Non-rose but I found this cute arrangement on one of my stump heaps, some 'rooms or 'stools (I don't know) and a geranium phaeum rooted in the soft wood.
Excellent @Victoria Sponge mine should soon be on their way then too, Probably could just leave them outside at the moment, given the amount of rain coming down...
I received a Royal Mail notification a few days prior @owd potter to let me know they were on the way.
I’ll save mine at least til the weekend as although I’m working from home at the moment it’s because I have caught some unpleasant disease and am genuinely too feeble to do anything fun in work time🤒
They look fab as usual from TW Vic, I’ll be interested to see the Baby in bloom, it’s been on and off my list for several years but something else keeps catching my attention.
No problem owd, just wondered if you’d missed it. Not that I’m a pruning expert by any means, I just go by eye and what the plant is telling me it needs, which works fine.
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It was my enquiry that you answered and I understood your response to be in respect of MW.
I have read DA pruning advice too of course, and which I think is rather generic in referring to 'all' of their shrub roses which, as we know, do vary somewhat in their growth habits. I had wondered therefore whether any tips on modifications of that generic advice might be known by anyone who has or does grow it.
I'm sure that no offence has been taken by anyone, the others are simply clarifying the advice for the sake of anyone who may tune into the forum.
@HarryWhite what a view. And your MH is lovely there
Pictures taken today.
Spirit of Freedom - This bloom managed to open fully in spite of a heavy rain.
Falstaff :
Eglantyne:
Pat Austin:
Wild Edric:
Cymbeline:
Dee-Lish: such a lovely strong fruity scent
Charles Rennie Mackintosh: fully opened tiny bloom
@owd potter I have four Musteads, one in it’s second season and the others a well established trio. I’m not sure if I can add anything further than my previous pruning suggestions, which were based on assessing the actual specimen in your photo rather than generic. There is no magic to DA roses or magic pruning technique and individual specimens vary enormously even within the same variety, which is why applying your eye is useful. My trio were very strong-caned from the start, for example, although their typically awkward architecture needed some corrective shaping, they needed very little intervention overall. My newbie looks more like yours, with splayed canes flopping at the sides so that requires a little harder winter pruning.
Anyway, we have several months before we need to concern ourselves with annual pruning, perhaps putting roses to bed for winter would be a more useful topic of discussion at the mo!
It's all good. I wasn't discounting your tips, which are gratefully received, and very well founded. I agree that we should assess the particular specimen being dealt with and why I think that it's the DA pruning guide that could be seen as somewhat generic, not what you have suggested.
More bare root planting is the next thing on my horizon, followed by about 200 bulbs thereafter
Had a delivery from Trevor White today, Baby Faurax, English Garden and Hippolyte. Had to just chuck them in a bucket for now.
Non-rose but I found this cute arrangement on one of my stump heaps, some 'rooms or 'stools (I don't know) and a geranium phaeum rooted in the soft wood.
mine should soon be on their way then too,
Probably could just leave them outside at the moment, given the amount of rain coming down...
I’ll save mine at least til the weekend as although I’m working from home at the moment it’s because I have caught some unpleasant disease and am genuinely too feeble to do anything fun in work time🤒