Thanks for the advice, Nollie. Any tips on pruning a Delbard rose like Rose des Cisterciens? I am not sure how to treat it.
Today for a wonder I have a totally free day (apart from ferrying offspring around) and need to, 1. Plant Bouquet de la Mariée. 2. Repot one of the crap Munsteads into its own pot. 3. Plant 35 alliums and 50 daffodils (why... why do I do this to myself?) 4. Sow sweetpeas. 5. Swap the positions of Amazing Day and Ferdinand Pichard. 6. Attach wires to the vine eyes drilled in yesterday and Plant and "train" the Albrighton Rambler. 7. Tie in Lavender Lassie, Adam Messerich and Super Excelsa. 8. Reposition my astrantias as only Roma bloomed this year. I have to assume the spot gets too much sun for Venice. 9. Try to give away a Dee-Lish or else find a vacant spot for it. 10. Reposition some of the foxglove seedlings. 11. Weed the front hedge.
I have a few Delbards but not Rose des Cisterciens. Delbard’s site lists it as a floribunda. Whatever class Delbard puts a rose in, so far I have found them to have pretty vigorous growth with a distinct whiff of HT so I expect they can take whatever you want to do to them. Short of anyone else growing it that can give you better advice, I think you just need to assess it’s overall size and growth habit and do what you think looks best. Easy peasy!
@pitter-patter re your Ali Baba, again, not a rose I’ve grown but the main canes you are tying into your arch will ripen and stiffen up over time. If by the twiggy bits you mean the flowering laterals growing from the main canes, try shortening them after flowering to about 4-6” making sure you leave one or two bud eyes (the knobbly bits which are dormant flowering shoots) and see if that helps with the droopiness.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
Thanks for the advice, Nollie. Any tips on pruning a Delbard rose like Rose des Cisterciens? I am not sure how to treat it.
Today for a wonder I have a totally free day (apart from ferrying offspring around) and need to, 1. Plant Bouquet de la Mariée. 2. Repot one of the crap Munsteads into its own pot. 3. Plant 35 alliums and 50 daffodils (why... why do I do this to myself?) 4. Sow sweetpeas. 5. Swap the positions of Amazing Day and Ferdinand Pichard. 6. Attach wires to the vine eyes drilled in yesterday and Plant and "train" the Albrighton Rambler. 7. Tie in Lavender Lassie, Adam Messerich and Super Excelsa. 8. Reposition my astrantias as only Roma bloomed this year. I have to assume the spot gets too much sun for Venice. 9. Try to give away a Dee-Lish or else find a vacant spot for it. 10. Reposition some of the foxglove seedlings. 11. Weed the front hedge.
WAMS, that pretty much list for the coming month with the names changed. Plant, pot up, put in bulbs (I got four pots done today), sow seeds, wire in, reposition, give away two roses, weed.
@Nollie Sorry, I’m fairly new to the forum, I should have expanded my answer. But I think, I could be wrong, I was asked about pruning Munstead Wood to make it a stronger shrub. I did the David Austin pruning course and I was following the advice given by them. But as I said I should have made it clearer and differentiated between shrubs, climbers and ramblers. The advice of using a measuring gauge on first year DA shrub roses was something I learned on the course from Steve, David Austin’s head gardener. I’m sorry if I have offended anyone.
@Nollie Sorry, I’m fairly new to the forum, I should have expanded my answer. But I think, I could be wrong, I was asked about pruning Munstead Wood to make it a stronger shrub. I did the David Austin pruning course and I was following the advice given by them. But as I said I should have made it clearer and differentiated between shrubs, climbers and ramblers. The advice of using a measuring gauge on first year DA shrub roses was something I learned on the course from Steve, David Austin’s head gardener. I’m sorry if I have offended anyone.
No way have you offended any of the lovely people here. I love the measuring gauge idea and hadn't actually read that anywhere before. It makes sense that that is how you'd get a nicely-shaped plant, though. Do you recall any other gems from the course, Ross?
Have a go with New Dawn, @Fire. My friend in Ireland has it and hers is gorgeous.
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Today for a wonder I have a totally free day (apart from ferrying offspring around) and need to,
1. Plant Bouquet de la Mariée.
2. Repot one of the crap Munsteads into its own pot.
3. Plant 35 alliums and 50 daffodils (why... why do I do this to myself?)
4. Sow sweetpeas.
5. Swap the positions of Amazing Day and Ferdinand Pichard.
6. Attach wires to the vine eyes drilled in yesterday and Plant and "train" the Albrighton Rambler.
7. Tie in Lavender Lassie, Adam Messerich and Super Excelsa.
8. Reposition my astrantias as only Roma bloomed this year. I have to assume the spot gets too much sun for Venice.
9. Try to give away a Dee-Lish or else find a vacant spot for it.
10. Reposition some of the foxglove seedlings.
11. Weed the front hedge.
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I have a few Delbards but not Rose des Cisterciens. Delbard’s site lists it as a floribunda. Whatever class Delbard puts a rose in, so far I have found them to have pretty vigorous growth with a distinct whiff of HT so I expect they can take whatever you want to do to them. Short of anyone else growing it that can give you better advice, I think you just need to assess it’s overall size and growth habit and do what you think looks best. Easy peasy!
@pitter-patter re your Ali Baba, again, not a rose I’ve grown but the main canes you are tying into your arch will ripen and stiffen up over time. If by the twiggy bits you mean the flowering laterals growing from the main canes, try shortening them after flowering to about 4-6” making sure you leave one or two bud eyes (the knobbly bits which are dormant flowering shoots) and see if that helps with the droopiness.
Munstead Wood (own root) is still covered in lovely (red) blooms:
Flamenco Rosita too, so glad I gave this rose a new position where it’s now thriving:
Harlow Carr:
Old tea rose Mme. Antoine Mari - you can see the direct link to modern HTs in the pointy petals:
Yet my other old tea, Lady Hillingdon couldn’t be more different, more typically twiggier with nodding blooms:
Have a go with New Dawn, @Fire. My friend in Ireland has it and hers is gorgeous.