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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    But if it wasn’t for climate change causing the drought,  Dartmoor wouldn’t be as dry as it is which is causing the fires to spread so rapidly. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    I know what you mean dove.
    So who’s in charge of doing something about climate change,  if we have no alternative we will continue our behaviour as we are. 
    Dartmoor always dry,  it’s just granite, very little soil, there’s always someone starting a fire up there.
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • Chris-P-BaconChris-P-Bacon Posts: 943
    edited August 2022
    Lyn said:
    Same here on Dartmoor,  but you have to search for that information,  we are told all of the fires are automatically igniting due to our actions causing climate change. 
    It's not but it makes a good story..and for the MSM - primarily the BBC & Sky that's really all that matters.
    I'm more worried that the management & the response to drought in the UK is co-ordinated & part managed by the Environment Agency...in fact knowing what I do about the efficacy of the EA I'd be sh+tting myself.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    edited August 2022
    It's just that the smallest thing now causes fires. Fires have a complex mix of causes - as with everything.
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    If the ground wasn't so dry and it wasn't so hot, a lot of the fires caused by carelessness would not happen, so of course climate change is part of the problem.
    Why have the fire service in Yorkshire been to 10X more fires this summer than last?
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    Europe is having a harder time than us.
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    Surely that is because Europe is generally hotter than us, our maritime climate has prevented us seeing the more extreme picture in central and southern Europe.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • @Dovefromabove and @punkdoc especially because of climate change it is needed to tell the truth and do stop calling them wild fire. They are mostly caused by humans and we have to tackle that problem. 

    I my garden.

  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    edited August 2022
    The term "wild fire" just means it's in nature (not urban) and out of / hard to control. Humans usually start them, one way or another - cigerettes, bbqs, arson...

    I guess some parts of the world are prone to lightning strikes.
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    They do @Fire.  They would start them even if it wasn’t so hot and dry.
    But who is going to do anything about it.
    An arsonist would start a fire in a oven if he wanted too. 

    I’m just fed up with people telling us it’s our fault when it isn’t,  no one will stop any activities until it is forced on us .  Attenborough told us this would happen back in the 80’s. And they knew what was happening at the beginning of the 1900’s. 
    We all do our bit,  that’s not going to do any good at all in the grand scheme of things. 

    My daughter,  a classic example,  on an aeroplane to New York,  will have more holidays later,   I asked her if she felt guilty about the pollution one plane chucks out,  no she said,  it will fly anyway whether we are on it or not.  So there you have it.  
    Nothing much will be done, as it hasn’t very much over the past decades. 

    Right.. grumps over,  better wash up in my 2lts of water.




    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

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