It has taken me an hour to water the potted roses using grey water from the bath and kitchen sink. I've also cut down a few canes which had leaves drying because of my intermittent watering. Here is me hoping for showers of blessings 🌧️.
A few photos taken yesterday and today: Madam Curie Serenade Pure poetry Crocus rose L'aimant
Oxford. The City of Dreaming Spires.
And then my heart with pleasure fills,
And dances with the daffodils (roses). Taking a bit of liberty with Wordsworth
Loved the beautiful pics of LoS upthread. Mine has also been going berserk. Didn't notice it till you mentioned it, @Marlorena, but the blackspot from earlier in the season has all but vanished.
The Lark Ascending. Its petals close at night and open in the morning.
Armada is very sweet. Hoping it takes off next year.
Does anyone have both Gruss an Aachen and Pink Gruss an Aachen? I only just learnt there is a pink version and I was wondering which mine was. It was supposed to be plain Gruss an Aachen.
@WhereAreMySecateurs You have Gruss an Aachen, but some blooms can have more pink/apricot in them, even sport to the pink version. With Pink Gruss an Aachen, it's also very similar, but has blooms that are distinctly pink, but they can also include apricot/cream fading to white.. at such times it's hard to tell them apart.. it's a variable rose, with many variations of colour.. Both these photos are of Pink Gruss an Aachen in its various forms..
@Jemula Yes they are the same, although in my garden, grown 6 feet apart, I found the Irene Watts clone to be more vigorous, but it may have been due to some rose replant issues on the other one, but yes they are the same rose.
The real 'Irene Watts' was thought to be extinct, until this rose was 'found' in a Texas garden. Nobody is sure but it does conform to what is described as 'Irene Watts', a China rose. You can see similarities with Pink Gruss an Aachen and how that rose might have got confused with 'IW'.. but the Gruss's are more upright, like an HT.. and the leaves are modern..
''Odee's Pink''.. ..typical China rose habit, twiggy, cascading..
..when Peter Beales sold the rose under both names [they no longer do I think], I bought them both, and you can see they are the same, but even in this picture the 'Irene Watts' is displaying a better branching habit, and that was how they grew in my garden..
@WhereAreMySecateurs Yes it is. Do get it. Like so many other nurseries around the world, they know it's incorrectly named, but do not change it. Peter Beales only changed it in quite recent times, even though they've long since known of the error.
As we're on this subject and it's hot and quiet today, here's a little potted history of how this all came about.. briefly as poss..
During the Soviet era, the famous rose garden Rosarium Sangerhausen, then in East Germany contained a huge number of old roses. Between the wars it got into neglect, and lots of the roses became either unnamed or wrongly labelled. Many of the old roses we have today were imported from this garden.
In the early 1980's, rosarian and plantsman James Russell, who was curator at Castle Howard, and Sunningdale Nurseries in Surrey, visited the garden and imported some of their roses to England. One of these was labelled 'Irene Watts'..
This rose was passed on to the curator of Mottisfont rose garden in Hampshire, a David Stone, who carried on the name of 'Irene Watts'. Only to realise quite soon that this rose was the same as one he had growing there called 'Pink Gruss an Aachen'..
By this time this rose had been propagated and despatched to nurseries all over the world under the 'Irene Watts' name. He notified as many as he could of the error. Nobody wanted to change the name.. why? Because the name 'Irene Watts' a mysterious old China rose from the 19th Century sells more roses in the English speaking world, than does the name 'Pink Gruss an Aachen' a 1929 Hybrid Tea.
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A few photos taken yesterday and today:
Madam Curie
Serenade
Pure poetry
Crocus rose
L'aimant
The Lark Ascending. Its petals close at night and open in the morning.
Armada is very sweet. Hoping it takes off next year.
Does anyone have both Gruss an Aachen and Pink Gruss an Aachen? I only just learnt there is a pink version and I was wondering which mine was. It was supposed to be plain Gruss an Aachen.
You have Gruss an Aachen, but some blooms can have more pink/apricot in them, even sport to the pink version.
With Pink Gruss an Aachen, it's also very similar, but has blooms that are distinctly pink, but they can also include apricot/cream fading to white.. at such times it's hard to tell them apart.. it's a variable rose, with many variations of colour..
Both these photos are of Pink Gruss an Aachen in its various forms..
Yes they are the same, although in my garden, grown 6 feet apart, I found the Irene Watts clone to be more vigorous, but it may have been due to some rose replant issues on the other one, but yes they are the same rose.
The real 'Irene Watts' was thought to be extinct, until this rose was 'found' in a Texas garden. Nobody is sure but it does conform to what is described as 'Irene Watts', a China rose.
You can see similarities with Pink Gruss an Aachen and how that rose might have got confused with 'IW'.. but the Gruss's are more upright, like an HT.. and the leaves are modern..
''Odee's Pink''..
..typical China rose habit, twiggy, cascading..
Yes it is. Do get it. Like so many other nurseries around the world, they know it's incorrectly named, but do not change it. Peter Beales only changed it in quite recent times, even though they've long since known of the error.
As we're on this subject and it's hot and quiet today, here's a little potted history of how this all came about.. briefly as poss..
During the Soviet era, the famous rose garden Rosarium Sangerhausen, then in East Germany contained a huge number of old roses. Between the wars it got into neglect, and lots of the roses became either unnamed or wrongly labelled.
Many of the old roses we have today were imported from this garden.
In the early 1980's, rosarian and plantsman James Russell, who was curator at Castle Howard, and Sunningdale Nurseries in Surrey, visited the garden and imported some of their roses to England. One of these was labelled 'Irene Watts'..
This rose was passed on to the curator of Mottisfont rose garden in Hampshire, a David Stone, who carried on the name of 'Irene Watts'. Only to realise quite soon that this rose was the same as one he had growing there called 'Pink Gruss an Aachen'..
By this time this rose had been propagated and despatched to nurseries all over the world under the 'Irene Watts' name.
He notified as many as he could of the error. Nobody wanted to change the name.. why? Because the name 'Irene Watts' a mysterious old China rose from the 19th Century sells more roses in the English speaking world, than does the name 'Pink Gruss an Aachen' a 1929 Hybrid Tea.
Simple as that. So the name persists...