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ROSES: Spring/Summer 2022 🌹

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  • Fran IOMFran IOM Posts: 2,872
    @Victoria Sponge. Hi. I did post a pic of my DA Grace! It doesn't seem to stop producing flowers and is massive in comparison to my other rose bushes. Definitely the best one I have. I have had to stake parts of it to avoid any damage. Haven't been able to get to see it with the bad weather in the last few days as it's in my allotment/garden.Ā 
    I don't think you will be disappointed with yours.Ā  :)
  • TackTack Posts: 1,367
    @WhereAreMySecateurs I note you have Perennial Blue (what a dull name) can you tell me about it please ie the position it's in and how long you've had it, health etc. I fancy Veilchenblau but understand this is it bred with Super Excelsa and it repeat blooms. Does anybody else have/had it?
  • WAMSWAMS Posts: 1,960
    edited June 2022
    Tack said:
    @WhereAreMySecateurs I note you have Perennial Blue (what a dull name) can you tell me about it please ie the position it's in and how long you've had it, health etc. I fancy Veilchenblau but understand this is it bred with Super Excelsa and it repeat blooms. Does anybody else have/had it?

    Beautiful hydrangea, Tack. Not the sort you are likely to pick up at Homebase.

    I have Perennial Blue (if you think name boring, Breeder's code is MEHblue... meh😁) but it was only planted this winter and I am learning about it. Mine is a standard intended to be a weeping standard eventually. No idea about remontage but Style Roses sell it as a reliable repeater. Its flush is over and the blooms are looking frazzled- am contemplating deadheading it to see if I get another flush, but the spent blooms also look colourful so holding fire for this week. Googled but you just get the "don't deadhead ramblers they are onceblooming" stuff.

    Mine is East-facing (in a SSWfacing garden) and gets a load of sunshine- hours and hours in the morning, then lots more in the afternoon at the top as being a standard it gets sun from over the fence.

    I read some continental rosegrowing groups and various French gardeners were discussing PB and saying it didn't repeat for them. But I don't know if that's climactic differences or whether they deadheaded them or not.Ā 

    Will report back!
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Hi @Native58 the difference between bare root and potted is more a matter of the time of year they are available and the price.

    Bare root time is from around mid autumn to about the end of March, as this is the best time of year for the growers to lift them and for you to plant them, during the dormant season - many rose breeders allow you order them in advance.

    Potted roses are usually available from about mid spring, more instant gratification as you will see some blooms this year, but you pay a premium for it.

    A ā€˜Standard’ rose is a tree rose, like a lollipop with a straight stem and the chosen rose variety grafted on top. A ā€˜freestanding rose’ is anything that’s not a standard or a climber, so shrub roses, floribundas, hybrid teas etc., but some are floppier than others and need a bit of support. Rose classifications can be confusing and the differences between the classes are not always rigid.

    I assume you would prefer a repeat-flowering rose? What sort of height and width in your bed do you want the rose to occupy? They vary a lot, a shrub rose, for example, can be quite compact and upright, huge and sprawling or any permutation in between!
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • newbie77newbie77 Posts: 1,838
    A very cloudy day here today and light spinkles of rain. I wish it would rain properly, garden needs it.
    South West London
  • TackTack Posts: 1,367
    Thank you @WhereAreMySecateurs . I will watch your reports with interest.
    On the matter of deadheading ramblers can those of you experienced in GdeH and MH tell me exactly how far back I should be cutting the spent trusses to get maximum speedy rebloom, please. I did MH already but GdeF and Blush Noisette are jobs for tomorrow.
    3 of my 4 water butts are empty @newbie77 so I feel similarly. Rain keeps being promised and then passes us by.
  • WAMSWAMS Posts: 1,960
    I am all ears for any answers to Tack's question about deadheading repeat ramblers. In addition to Perennial Blue, I just planted Super Excelsa (to go over a shed) and am way out of my depth here.

    A proper deluge would do me too, newbie. Worried about my camellias next year as there is so little rainwater for them and my tapwater is among the hardest in Britain.
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    A question about Hybrid Tea repeat:

    I have a few, not climbers, no more than 2 season’s old. Whilst I don’t expect Floribunda or Shrub rose performance, mine seem to go for months just sitting there after an initial modest bloom. IĀ mulch, feed, water, cosset, to no avail. OK we recently experienced a hideous heatwave through which only a few roses soldiered on, but now it’s cooler, everything is busy putting out new shoots and buds. Except the HTs.

    So, three questions really - What would you say is the average break between flushes? Do they get better with age? Are some a much faster repeat than others?

    Love to hear all your thoughts and experiences.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
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