Apparently the Co-op has started using the same type of packaging. My wife won't buy mince from them any more because the mince is more like paste. Texture has been totally destroyed.
Maybe I see things in an odd way - to me, even if recycling rates aren't high - then that's an education thing. If something isn't recyclable - then you have no option.
I bet it was a supplier thing - and Sainsbury's tried to sell the new packaging by that claim ...the '...look at us aren't we green...' - as how can Sainsbury's know how much of the original packaging was being recycled?
I stlll think the same about the date on fresh food - the SMs had no clue as to what was being ditched at home by the consumer because of old dates. BUT they did know how much stuff they could no longer sell in store because it had old dates. The savings weren't for the consumer.
The packaging isn't about being green - as Sainsburys changed their bacon trays to non-recyclable as well - without making them vacuum (I presume due to supply change).
Royal Mail has just been fined an enormous amount as they failed their first and second Delivery targets. First and second class means nothing nowadays.
£5.6m. It works out at about £37 per employee so I assume it's better to pay that than to improve pay and working conditions to end strikes.
If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
@SteveTu there was never any valid justification for having 'Best Before' dates on anything. So much depends on how it's stored. In the past we have bought potatoes with a 'Best Before' date of little more than a week, when spuds can be stored for months in the right conditions, as can much fruit and veg. A friend of ours used to pour her milk away when it hit the 'bb' date. What's wrong with the sniff test?
I don't care if it's a best before or a packed date. What I object to is the passing of the responsibility to the consumer. The SMs knew they couldn't sell 'old' stock - the dates hit them - they had to manage their shelves. Now the consumer has no idea how 'fresh' the product (in packs) is. I never threw food away based on BB (my tin cupboard is testament to that) - but it was (to me) a good indicator of it's remaining life.
Should spuds be soft? I don't recall having an issue with them when they were dated - but now, the potatoes are soft in the shop. Do I have to 'squeeze' every pack - does everyone have to squeeze the same packs
As I said in the post, on a slightly different topic, education. If your friend is throwing food that is usable away, then that is education isn't it? I have nothing against a sniff test, or a squeeze test - but isn't that just a visual date check passed onto a different sensing mechanism? I shop a week in advance - so I still buy dated milk that is BB 10 days hence. I expect it to be usable in that time. If the dates were taken off milk, could I buy milk that would be off in 7 days time?
I have thrown away more food since the dates were removed (not much - carrots here, garlic there) then I ever have. Is that being measured by someone? Does the SM know?
If you work for a company that sends out marketing emails on Wednesday saying 'Black Friday is here' would you be justified in taking the rest of the week off because it must be a four day weekend? This is my annual rant about the lazy marketing of this total non-event. Soon we will celebrate the annual Inflating of the Prices like the precursor to a religious festival. "Look children! See how the prices climb to unprecedented heights ready to be discounted back to their normal levels. Isn't it just one of the wonders of nature!"
If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
I completely agree that the removal of best before or use by dates allows supermarkets to shift the burden of stock control onto the customer. A well organised store will have a robust stock rotation system to ensure fresh products get sold in good order. Sadly, the stock rotation in our local supermarket is woeful, my usual habit of looking at the back of the shelf for the longest date doesn’t work there. Evidently the staff bring out the new stock and stack it at the front, with little or no effort to get stuff sold before it gets near to its expiry date.
A well organised store will have a robust stock rotation system to ensure fresh products get sold in good order. Sadly, the stock rotation in our local supermarket is woeful, my usual habit of looking at the back of the shelf for the longest date doesn’t work there. Evidently the staff bring out the new stock and stack it at the front, with little or no effort to get stuff sold before it gets near to its expiry date.
I know a shelf stacker who is a functioning alcoholic and he's not even the worst stacker at that supermarket. They pay peanuts and treat staff terribly, which shows what they're expecting in terms of work.
If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
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