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  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    edited June 2022
    Surely you only lie, if you know the truth to be different from what you are saying. I don't believe TB lied.
    Anyway, i think this theme is done.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Once the vote had been counted Brexit was going to happen … the train of events had been set in motion and nothing could stop it … it being ‘done’ was inevitable … and so it has proved … Brexit has been ‘done’. 

    Whether it has been ‘done well’ is another matter … that was Boris’
    responsibility … and he’s effed it up big time. 😡 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    ..using that definition, then  according to Boris he hasn't lied either.. And how can you ever actually know intent?
    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • didywdidyw Posts: 3,573
    Ok, so maybe Brexit is done in that we are no longer a member of the EU - except NI is a little bit.  But trying to pass off something that is the most damaging thing to our economy since WW2 as an achievement beggars belief.  TB did achieve much for the country and that Labour govt. was firmly on the side of families.  Until TB became enamoured by big business (PFI) and Murdoch.  We'll leave the Iraq war out of it - that was just wrong and there are no excuses for him doing that.   But then, I'm still reeling from losing John Smith. 
    Gardening in East Suffolk on dry sandy soil.
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    You can't tell the result of Brexit yet. It will be decades before the true effects are seen. I know how I think it will pan out, but I no more have a crystal ball than anyone else. Fracturing the EU was not good, but if the UK leaving in some way strengthens the EU, then maybe it will achieve something. Brexit didn't only affect the UK.
    To me, TB was like Thatcher in as much as he ended up believing his own publicity. Power and the pursuit of it, messes people up - it completely bu*****d up Boris from birth.

    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • didywdidyw Posts: 3,573
    So Brexit was all about long term planning was it?  Oh well, I shan't live to see the benefits.
    TB's refrain of 'things can only get better' didn't last long.  And after 12 years of Tory misrule things have got a helluva lot worse.
    Gardening in East Suffolk on dry sandy soil.
  • AnniDAnniD Posts: 12,585
    Maybe this discussion should be on the poliitics thread ? 

    My curmudge is that the forecast showed dry weather all day. Halfway through the morning, heavy rain. Now l'm indoors having lunch, the sun is out 🙄.
  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 10,576
    punkdoc said:
    I know none of you agree with me, but I still think that he is the best PM since I was able to vote.

    I agree with you @punkdoc . But then, the others haven't been up to much since I've been able to vote (1985).
    Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Soil type: sandy, well-drained
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    No, I don't thin k it was. As in most things I would guess that a few people made and will make loads of money from it, and a few people wanted to 'control' and just hated that the UK had to apply EU legislation. That hurt their pride. But irrespective of the reasons behind Brexit, the ramifications will take decades to fully filter through - much as the effect of the EU on the UK took decades.

    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    I was just looking at some second-hand furniture online and saw a comment from someone asking "How much for the chester draws" :# 

    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
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