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  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    How can you reconcile the way he mislead parliament with him being a good prime minister? Or should one part be ignored - and if you ignore Blair's misrepresentation, then what about Boris?
    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    Curmudgeonly doesn’t even begin to describe it …

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/jun/01/social-mobility-prospects-for-young-people-disappearing-says-research 

    Sad and flamin’ furious doesn’t do it either …
    and still some of the "poor old pensioners " whinge about how hard a time THEY'RE having.
    Devon.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    B3 said:
     I nearly got run over by a hell's granny who was actually whizzing along the pavement faster than the traffic on the road. 
    They should have to take a proficiency test and have number plates on their vehicles.
    AND insurance
    Devon.
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    I believe TB was misled by the USA and any misleading of the House, was due to this.
    I have listed many times his enormous number of achievements, whereas, I cannot think of one by Bojo.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    ..isn't that all subjective? If you like Bojo, he 'gets things done' - Brexit, vaccines, employment,... He's had the most difficult PMship since WWII.  If you don't like him, his lies outweigh his alleged achievements. Ditto then for TB. BUT both mislead parliament and thereby the country. To me, you can't say the USA misled TB and not take Boris' excuse that he just gave parliament what his advisers told him.
    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    steveTu said:
    ..isn't that all subjective? If you like Bojo, he 'gets things done' - Brexit, vaccines, employment,... He's had the most difficult PMship since WWII.  If you don't like him, his lies outweigh his alleged achievements. Ditto then for TB. BUT both mislead parliament and thereby the country. To me, you can't say the USA misled TB and not take Boris' excuse that he just gave parliament what his advisers told him.
    but Brexit isn't " done " It's a total farce. 
    Tell folk who export  / import into Northern Ireland that it's " done ".
    Or Fishermen for that matter, or haulage companies, or anyone who imports / exports to EU. 
    Unemployment figurs are only "low" because of the rise of part ime and zero hours contracts. 
    If you take 100 people, 50 have jobs , 50 don't, you have 50% unemployment. 
    if you sack the 50 people and give 100 part time jobs, you have 0% unemployment. 
    Devon.
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    BREXIT, an achievement, give me strength and even if you support it, it isn't done.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    That's your opinion, as you seem to be like me against Brexit. But he did get it through Parliament.
    Brexit is done. The fall out from leaving the EU will be with us for years. But we are no longer part of the EU.


    Brexit
    /ˈbrɛksɪt,ˈbrɛgzɪt/
    noun
    noun: Brexit; noun: Brixit
    1. the withdrawal of the United Kingdom from the European Union.
      "the report warned that Brexit would reduce the EU's potential GDP"
    Origin
    2012: blend of British (or Britain) and exit, probably on the pattern of Grexit (coined earlier in the same year).


    I'm not for what Brexit meant and means - but if I was a supporter of Boris, it is something that he's done. It is a fact that we are no longer part of the EU. Fact.
    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    steveTu said:
    That's your opinion, as you seem to be like me against Brexit. But he did get it through Parliament.
    Brexit is done. The fall out from leaving the EU will be with us for years. But we are no longer part of the EU.


    Brexit
    /ˈbrɛksɪt,ˈbrɛgzɪt/
    noun
    noun: Brexit; noun: Brixit
    1. the withdrawal of the United Kingdom from the European Union.
      "the report warned that Brexit would reduce the EU's potential GDP"
    Origin
    2012: blend of British (or Britain) and exit, probably on the pattern of Grexit (coined earlier in the same year).


    I'm not for what Brexit meant and means - but if I was a supporter of Boris, it is something that he's done. It is a fact that we are no longer part of the EU. Fact.
    Is this what anyone who was stupid enough to believe the lies told beforehand were expecting? 
    Are THEY happy with how it's been " done " 
    Devon.
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    I would guess that the die hard Brexiteers are ecstatic that Brexit  was 'done'. Even the general public remains undecided. https://www.statista.com/statistics/987347/brexit-opinion-poll/
    It surprises me that so many still think it was right to leave, but they do, even though they can see the ramifications. That is the point though isn't it? We all see things differently. So to some Boris is good and to some TB was good. Both lied.


    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
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