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  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    I'm curmudgeonly because it's flippin' freezin. 
    I'm also V curmudgeonly about having to pay £42.21 in customs charges on a packet of seeds from Holland.. Thank you Brexit voters.
    Devon.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    But it's raining
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219


    KT53 said:
    @steveTu The discussion has developed from the difference (if any) between graffiti and art.  You may wish to narrow the discussion but can't enforce that desire on other people.  Maybe a seperate topic purely on the definition of art would be an appropriate place to start.

    Apologies - I wasn't trying to narrow down anything. I think it was Hosta who posted the link initially re the Brit being found defacing (writing his name?) on an ancient monument - which lead to graffiti and art. But it is impossible to define the difference between two abstract things unless you can define them in the first place - ie 'The discussion has developed from the difference (if any) between graffiti and art' becomes impossible doesn't it?
    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    Not here but I'm stuck in a hospital bed with exercises to do, grey skies outside and a view over a very unlovely roof garden which the eejit architect failed to design with adequate water supplies so most of it is dead or dying - birch trees, conifers, other unidentifiable trees and weedy ground cover.

    Why?  It must have cost a fortune to ship in the soil and trees and gravel.   Such a waste not to maintain it.   
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    What makes inflation? I heard a spokesperson this week talking about migrants and the jobs they fill. They likened the migrant food production problem with lorry drivers. They said that the lorry driver issue was mainly resolved by the employers paying drivers more - thereby encouraging more indigenous, highly paid drivers. The implication that the fruit picking companies should then pay more - but isn't that then true of all jobs from rail to nursing? So why baulk at paying health care people more if the solution to encouraging more of a local grown supply is to simply pay more?
    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    I'm definitely a curmudgeonly ingrate.
    Yesterday, I was feeling quite proud of myself. I had planted out most of grown on stuff.
    Today a dozen penstemon arabesque that I hadn't ordered arrived. I was told to keep them -  no charge so I have sullenly potted them on.
    I did, however tell them not to hesitate to send free plants in future.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    Lucky B,  especially with penstemons,  all slug free plants are a bonus.
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    If I wrote a novel and decided it was a great work of art, does that it mean it was? Or, are some views worth more than others: other writers, critics or the general public.
    I think I know the answer, but from what @steveTu says, if I say so, then it is.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    The problem of fruit pickers was covered in part by a news article last year.  A fruit farmer in East Anglia advertised locally for fruit pickers.  He received lots of applications with many being invited for interview.  Less than 10 actually turned up for interview and 1 started the job.  They lasted one day and said the work was too hard for them.  There does seem to be a mentality of wanting the money but not being prepared to put in the hard work to earn it.  Simply increasing the money won't solve all the problem, and will obviously also feed into inflation.  A few years ago the Government changed the rules for Job Seekers allowance so that after a few months, if nothing in a persons preferred work type was available, they had to take whatever job was offered to them.  That simply didn't work.  Employers don't want employees who don't want to do a job and will quit at the first opportunity.  It's a waste of their time and money to start training somebody who obviously doesn't want to be there.
  • BluejaywayBluejayway Posts: 392
    edited July 2023
    @punkdoc Of course, if you like the sight or sound of something, then it’s art.  If you don’t, then it isn’t!  What aggravates me, for example, is an abstract painting, the type that “a child could do”, being taken seriously.  That’s simply the person behind it taking the wee-wee.  My opinion, others may vary ….😳🤔
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