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  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    Should I watch the World Cup?

    I know that stories of the horrendous treatment of foreign workers in Qatar had been in the news, but they hadn't really hit home.
    Yesterday, BBC R4 had a play, 'Dear Harry Kane' (https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001f4xs) about the conditions experienced - and again I know it was a play - a fiction - but it was based on what appears to be a 'truth' (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-60867042).
    The focus now seems to be on the gay rights issue, which is bad enough to warrant a complete boycott, but with ALL the issues surrounding Qatar is it right to watch it and have people make money from an appalling set of conditions/actions by the Qatari state?

    I like football and want to watch it, but can it be justified? Is this another case of me knowing what's right and ignoring my Jiminy Cricket?



    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • A lot of slipperiness there. Read today that Qatar are threatening to renege on permitting beer sales, Almost beginning to feel sorry for their major sponsor till I read the prices they are asking for beer!
    You'll see any interesting bits on the news anyway and can drink your less expensive beer with a clear conscience :)
  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 10,576
    punkdoc said:
    You would love the jump from Adam to Eve on Tryphan then!!

    Errr - no thanks! My sis offered to take me up Tryfan once, I declined :). There are other walks around Llyn Ogwen and the surrounding area that are more to my liking, I'll leave the vertigo-inducing ones to you!
    Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Soil type: sandy, well-drained
  • ErgatesErgates Posts: 2,953
    My problem will be that not speaking Welsh, I have no idea how to pronounce Yr Wyddfa 
    ( my guess would be ear wid far?  ) Would I end up calling it the Mountain formerly known as Snowdon? Anyone help me out with the welcome to Wales signs? I get the meaning but would hate to try and read it out loud.
  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 10,576
    I don't speak welsh either but as far as I understand from people I know who do, it's something like r uithva (dd sounds like the th in "the", single f sounds like v).
    Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Soil type: sandy, well-drained
  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 10,576
    Croeso y Cymru - something like croyso ee cumree
    Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Soil type: sandy, well-drained
  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 10,576
    My favourite welsh words/phrases are much easier.
    Amser panad
    Popty ping (I'm told that's slang really)
    Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Soil type: sandy, well-drained
  • My son enjoys spending time on the Gower with my Welsh cousin ... he was impressed with the word 'smoothio' ... as he says, it does what it says on the tin.  

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    But unless you already knew what the Welsh equivalent of Snowdon was, the sign could say 'this way to the toilets' or point to any other mountain in Snowdonia - how would you know? If the sign is dual language - then what is the point? Who understands Welsh, who doesn't understand English?

    Fom Wiki (...yeah ok...) - 'The main countries of origin of overseas visitors were the Republic of Ireland, the United States and Germany. The majority of tourism however, is from other parts of the UK (predominantly England).[5]'

    ...so wouldn't it then be more sensible to put the German equivalent of Snowdon on the signs? What is a sign for, unless it is to be read and understood rather than to be guessed at?

    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    Even Welsh people have trouble with some of the North Welsh words. Those guys seem to have an extra tongue or something. There's a place near here called Mynyddysllwyn and it's taken me a few years of practice to get that one right.
    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
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