Your BN looks fabulous @Marlorena. Especially from the first 2 pics, it looks to be potentially a very large rose? Spookily enough, since yesterday I think I will soon have an opportunity for a large rose, somewhere around 6 ft or so tall and I think I would like something a little different, so will be taking note of your coming features. Is William Lobb on your radar?, although I will need to wait until May if so
@owd potter ...hi ya... thank you... and no, 'William Lobb' is not on my radar these days, far too big for me, and a rather lanky grower [blooms summer only].. and it really needs support from other large shrubs nearby from what I've seen of it. but don't let that put you off, it has a good colour and I always enjoy seeing it in gardens..
..the Moss roses I've grown are.. 'Henri Martin'... 'Mme de la Roche-Lambert'.. 'General Kleber'.. 'Laneii'.. 'Souvenir de Pierre Vibert'...
..of those my favourite will always be 'Henri Martin', because of its generous bloom, masses of flowers, and delicious scent... the foliage is always healthy and it set hips too... also the mossy glands have a different scent to them if we rub our fingers over them.. I grew it north facing and it was very good in that position to about 5-6 feet.. I can't remember exactly how tall mine was, - long time ago - but a bushy shrub with a graceful habit.. for a crimson red once blooming rose I cannot recommend it highly enough.. 'Laneii' is very similar but much shorter...
However, if you want 'William Lobb' then you must get 'William Lobb' it will certainly reach the height you want quickest of any of these roses.. just be prepared to support it.. happy choosing >!
...just to confuse you even more, don't forget David Austin's 'Chianti' if you are prepared for a once blooming rose... about 5 feet in this photo, but might grow taller in time.. strong damask scent.. this is one rose bush of it.. a more graceful habit you would be pushed to find..
Many thanks @Marlorena your knowledge, experience and assistances are truly appreciated. As I do not wish to divert or hijack your thread, and especially on roses that you may not even be featuring, I think it will be better that I raise this on my rose bed thread. Incidentally, Chianti and some others I am also considering. Ta.
@Marlorena - re Blush Noisette - I've just taken a young ( bare root season 2020/2021) plant from a neighbour who was growing it along wires in a corner in an approx 30 litre pot- I'd like to keep it in the same pot for this season but as a shrub. I cut back some of the canes , but have not fully defoliated it, longest cane is maybe left at about 3 feet, and tied in to a cane support ( mainly for the storms this week but thinking of leaving those cane supports in). Do i need to remove all the leaves or do anything else ( other than feeding it a bit in a couple of weeks ) Thank you!
@Desi_in_London Hi Desi.... yes that's ok in the pot for this season, and no, there's no need to defoliate this rose... mine still has lots of leaves on it... its genetics are from a climate much warmer than ours where it would have stayed evergreen, so we don't need to worry about that.. Lucky you to get one from a neighbour..
'Bonica'.. [Meilland,
France 1981]... shrub to 5 feet tall by 6-8 feet wide, or climber to
about 10 feet on a wall..
Continuous blooming,
silvery pink flowers with a slight fragrance, I would describe as
light and fresh but no more.. totally disease resistant with glossy
foliage.. another rose that can be covered in aphids but has the
ability to completely grow through the infestation without assistance
and without any impairment to the blooms.. pinkish hips..
One of the world's
great pink roses, much planted for landscaping... in my windy garden I had to stake
it as it gets top heavy when in bloom and the arching canes will
bend downwards if not given some support.. a few stakes or tying the
canes back to the fence or somesuch, resolves the problem.. a little
time consuming but worth the effort..
Strange it gets listed
as a ground cover rose in some descriptions..
As I have few photos today, I'll just mention a couple of other 'B' roses that I was going to leave out, but it may be of some use..
'Benjamin Britten' .. [Austin, UK 2001] [Charles Austin x unnamed seedling]..
This rose opens with a delicious rich red bloom with a touch of orange at the centre, it has a good scent, not sure what of.. but its failing for me was the fading bloom colour which turned into a kind of purple with grey/white streaks. I did not like that. The growth habit is rather thorny and coarse, upright/climbing to 6-8 feet, but also spreading out if required.. I grew mine in a large pot.. This rose has one great attribute.. it blooms in fast repeating flushes... as soon as one is finished, another is ready... it flushed 4 times for me, and was about to do a 5th before winter set in.. I'm not sure I've grown a rose with such a quick repeating flush, and full flushes at that, as this one..
'Blythe Spirit' [Austin UK, 1999]... medium shrub about 4 x 4 feet..
..another naming error from Austins, said to be named after the Noel Coward play, well that's 'Blithe' as far as I know..
..this is actually another good fast repeating rose, butter yellow, fading to cream, that forms an attractive rounded shrub.. but rather like other roses from this group, it sends out a long cane that it's best to trim back, otherwise it looks odd.. grew well in my dry garden border.. Not much scent, but an effective shrub rose for mixing with perennials.. It had one other failing for me, which I noticed during the heat of midsummer, not so much early and late... in that you get 3 colours on this rose and they do not go well together... from rich yellow to cream, the petals then discolour to a weird kind of pink, before falling... I did not like that colour mix.. photo below.. A good late blooming rose though, flowers well into autumn..
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Especially from the first 2 pics, it looks to be potentially a very large rose?
Spookily enough, since yesterday I think I will soon have an opportunity for a large rose, somewhere around 6 ft or so tall and I think I would like something a little different, so will be taking note of your coming features.
Is William Lobb on your radar?, although I will need to wait until May if so
...hi ya... thank you... and no, 'William Lobb' is not on my radar these days, far too big for me, and a rather lanky grower [blooms summer only].. and it really needs support from other large shrubs nearby from what I've seen of it. but don't let that put you off, it has a good colour and I always enjoy seeing it in gardens..
..the Moss roses I've grown are.. 'Henri Martin'... 'Mme de la Roche-Lambert'.. 'General Kleber'.. 'Laneii'.. 'Souvenir de Pierre Vibert'...
..of those my favourite will always be 'Henri Martin', because of its generous bloom, masses of flowers, and delicious scent... the foliage is always healthy and it set hips too... also the mossy glands have a different scent to them if we rub our fingers over them.. I grew it north facing and it was very good in that position to about 5-6 feet.. I can't remember exactly how tall mine was, - long time ago - but a bushy shrub with a graceful habit.. for a crimson red once blooming rose I cannot recommend it highly enough..
'Laneii' is very similar but much shorter...
However, if you want 'William Lobb' then you must get 'William Lobb' it will certainly reach the height you want quickest of any of these roses.. just be prepared to support it.. happy choosing >!
your knowledge, experience and assistances are truly appreciated.
As I do not wish to divert or hijack your thread, and especially on roses that you may not even be featuring, I think it will be better that I raise this on my rose bed thread.
Incidentally, Chianti and some others I am also considering.
Ta.
Hi Desi.... yes that's ok in the pot for this season, and no, there's no need to defoliate this rose... mine still has lots of leaves on it... its genetics are from a climate much warmer than ours where it would have stayed evergreen, so we don't need to worry about that..
Lucky you to get one from a neighbour..
'Bonica'.. [Meilland, France 1981]... shrub to 5 feet tall by 6-8 feet wide, or climber to about 10 feet on a wall..
Continuous blooming, silvery pink flowers with a slight fragrance, I would describe as light and fresh but no more.. totally disease resistant with glossy foliage.. another rose that can be covered in aphids but has the ability to completely grow through the infestation without assistance and without any impairment to the blooms.. pinkish hips..
One of the world's great pink roses, much planted for landscaping... in my windy garden I had to stake it as it gets top heavy when in bloom and the arching canes will bend downwards if not given some support.. a few stakes or tying the canes back to the fence or somesuch, resolves the problem.. a little time consuming but worth the effort..
Strange it gets listed as a ground cover rose in some descriptions..
Just 2 photos of this rose today..
..tomorrow.. 'Botzaris'..
'Benjamin Britten' .. [Austin, UK 2001] [Charles Austin x unnamed seedling]..
This rose opens with a delicious rich red bloom with a touch of orange at the centre, it has a good scent, not sure what of.. but its failing for me was the fading bloom colour which turned into a kind of purple with grey/white streaks. I did not like that. The growth habit is rather thorny and coarse, upright/climbing to 6-8 feet, but also spreading out if required.. I grew mine in a large pot..
This rose has one great attribute.. it blooms in fast repeating flushes... as soon as one is finished, another is ready... it flushed 4 times for me, and was about to do a 5th before winter set in.. I'm not sure I've grown a rose with such a quick repeating flush, and full flushes at that, as this one..
'Blythe Spirit' [Austin UK, 1999]... medium shrub about 4 x 4 feet..
..another naming error from Austins, said to be named after the Noel Coward play, well that's 'Blithe' as far as I know..
..this is actually another good fast repeating rose, butter yellow, fading to cream, that forms an attractive rounded shrub.. but rather like other roses from this group, it sends out a long cane that it's best to trim back, otherwise it looks odd.. grew well in my dry garden border..
Not much scent, but an effective shrub rose for mixing with perennials..
It had one other failing for me, which I noticed during the heat of midsummer, not so much early and late... in that you get 3 colours on this rose and they do not go well together... from rich yellow to cream, the petals then discolour to a weird kind of pink, before falling... I did not like that colour mix.. photo below..
A good late blooming rose though, flowers well into autumn..