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  • Regards veggies/vegans g/f lactose free requirements, as a cafĂ© owner I get very cross when we go to lots of trouble and expense to provide ( and keep separate) such foods, and then on a whim, a g/f or veggie person will say, oh, go on, I'll treat myself today to x y or z, a little bit won't hurt me! 🙄 You'd be astonished how often it happens. 
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  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    Regards veggies/vegans g/f lactose free requirements, as a cafĂ© owner I get very cross when we go to lots of trouble and expense to provide ( and keep separate) such foods, and then on a whim, a g/f or veggie person will say, oh, go on, I'll treat myself today to x y or z, a little bit won't hurt me! 🙄 You'd be astonished how often it happens. 
    I was offered a glass of wine at a works do a couple of years ago.
    " I don't drink alcohol "
    " Just a little glass then? " 
    Devon.
  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    Obelixx said:
    If you eat any meat or fish you cannot call yourself a vegetarian and if you eat dairy products or eggs you cannot be vegan.
    The long term aim of all vegans is to end keeping animals in captivity (according to the Vegan Society). I'd be interested to see how that world would look. 8 billion people and not a single domestic animal in sight. Plenty of vegans don't seem in a hurry to get rid of their pets though (and I assume the farm animals required to feed them have to stick around too).

    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    Precisely @wild edges.  Our countryside has been formed by agriculture in one form or another except in the most desolate places where even wildlife struggles.   I'm not keen on acres and hectares of monoculture rapeseed (nasty shade of yellow) or endless rows of cabbages but I do love to see crops and pastureland interspersed with managed woodland and natural, wild areas.



    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    Soylent Green...?
    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    I suspect any meat left on your carcase might be a tad tough @pansyface.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • Jenny_AsterJenny_Aster Posts: 945
    edited January 2022
    pansyface said:
    I don’t see why dead human beings can’t be turned into protein. Seriously. When I’m dead I’m not going to care whether I’m turned into burger or turned into compost.
    There is a swimming baths that uses energy from the crem to heat up the water. I can see the sense of it, but even that makes me feel a bit weird.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-23104502#:~:text=A Worcestershire swimming pool is,delays due to extra work.
    Trying to be the person my dog thinks I am! 

    Cambridgeshire/Norfolk border.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    Cannibalism?  Frowned upon isn't it?  I agree tho that it is a waste just to bury dead bodies, not to mention all the makings needed for a coffin.  Has to be a better way.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    I'm doing a job for a pet crem at the moment. The heating is ground sourced which seemed odd to me when you have to fire up a big gas burner several times a day anyway. There doesn't seem to be an option for heat recovery from the incinerator though. All my dead pets get buried with a tree planted on top. You'd think with the government tree planting targets lagging behind it would be win win to open up land for natural pet burials. A nice earner for farmers too. Charge the owner and get the grant money on top.
    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
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