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Arthur de Sansal? Which red, deeper hued roses would you choose for a new south facing flowerbed?

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  • LesleyHLesleyH Posts: 126
    Thank you all for your kindness in taking time with a novice! I’ll be looking through your suggestions and will definitely put up some photos when it’s all planted out. This forum is wonderful! Xx
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Should have said, my ET is in morning sun only and doesn’t crisp, but the blooms are smaller and more magenta than purple in summer. Thanks for the heads-up @cooldoc, If I ever get my hands on TZ I will make sure it only gets morning sun too. Most reds and purples need afternoon shade here!

    I forgot to mention Darcy Bussell, she can take full sun although not as fragrant as MW. Prone to blackspot, but the blooms are lovely. 
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • newbie77newbie77 Posts: 1,838
    edited December 2021
    I have now bookmarked this thread as it is very good reference for me with everyone's personal experience. I have couple of more red/purple/deep colour roses so I will list down my feedback

    Royal William: Lovely rose but a bit on red side. 
    Papa Mieland: Very impressive flower but a one cane wonder for me.
    Graffin Diana: Struggles in shade for me but have seen very lovely flowers posted on this forum, it has dark deep colour.
    William Shakespear 2000: Not as dark as MW but beautiful flowers. Doesnt flower that much for me but it could be because it is in shade.
    Young Lycidas: Not that dark/deep colour and on Purple side, some disease issues, but very good repeat and great fragrance.
    Gabriel Oak: Again not that dark/deep colour and on Purple side, some disease issues, but very good fragrance.
    South West London
  • LesleyHLesleyH Posts: 126
    @Fire. You mentioned that there are some good red climbers. Which would you suggest? I do have places in the garden I could put a couple.
  • i was going to suggest David Austens William Shakespeare. I gave it to my mother for its colour and wonderul fragrance. 
    I haven't grown it myself so no idea what kind of doer it is.
  • LesleyHLesleyH Posts: 126
    @Fire
    Thank you so much for the suggestions and photos of your gorgeous roses, so lovely. And your front door! That’s one of the prettiest and most welcoming I’ve seen. I’m very envious! X
  • LesleyHLesleyH Posts: 126
    @Joyce Goldenlily. That is such a lovely suggestion, thank you. What a beauty of a rose! X
  • William Shakespeare is a really good doer in sun, with a wonderful smell. My mother grew it. 

    If you want something with a different character, I'm very fond of the Hybrid Musk Marjorie Fair, which has sprays of dark red-pink single flowers. Takes a few years to get roots down and start developing a shape on top. 

    Another one I have enjoyed a lot, which seems extremely healthy and has a fantastic scent, is the Hybrid Tea 'Deep Secret'.
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