However the figures on justice for rape victims are higher than the UK.
You do hear of the horrific cases from there but do you think there's not horrific cases here too? Was what happened to Sarah Everard not horrific too? The point being is that India has a higher conviction rate than the UK. Indeed UK has a very low conviction rate.
For a first World country we have absolutely failed with both rape, sexual assault and domestic murder. Marital rape only got laid out in primary legislation in 2003. Even now 1/3 of over 65s do not think forced sex in a marriage is rape. In a yougov survey. Over all ages it was a quarter. Third thought non consensual sex was not rape if there was no violence. That's a survey of a representative sample in the UK. I do not think we have any high ground on this. We really don't.
I have no idea how the Indian legal system works, despite it being based on the British one. Looking at the conviction rates in the UK, surely the big problem for proving the claim is the general lack of witnesses. Unless there is an automatic assumption that the victim is telling the truth (a dangerous route to take in my opinion) I'm not sure what more can be done to improve conviction rate. I must make it clear that I am not disputing the honesty of the majority of accusers, but there must be evidence to support them.
The trouble with India is , it survives on bribery and corruption to the highest levels. I remember a UN survey of "countries where you can do business without paying a bribe" Only Equatorial Guinee ( remember Mark Thatcher anyone ? ) was lower than India out of 156 countries. In terms of rape, I should think there are , literally , millions of victims who feel there's no point in even reporting it to the police in the first place
The thing is despite bribery, elder or tribal justice, patriarchal society, low worth of women, etc there's still a higher conviction rate.
Bear in mind these conviction rates, AIUI, factor in victims that don't come forward among the figures. Unreported cases. No idea how but these things get reported but there's been enough newspaper reports over such reports over the years.
The question still remains as to how you develop a system which is fair to all parties. There have been a number of cases over the years where women have made accusations simply to get back at men who have spurned them, or upset them in some way.
I don't know what the answer is, but a 'solution' which produced more wrongful convictions can't be the right one.
Isn't that so low rate but so highly reported? It's a daily mail fear along with cold blast from the east shutting the country down any time after the first day of autumn! It happens and we all make a big deal about it while others look on and wonder wtf is going on with us that we use it to excuse poor systems to deal with abuse and rape.
The Daily Mail is right up there when it comes to making a drama out of a crisis, but it is far from alone. The major catalyst for the fuel problem was grossly exaggerated reporting by the BBC and presumably other news organisations.
There was a headline on one of the newspapers on-line versions following an interview with Prince Charles, stating that he 'supported' the climate change protesters. That was fairly rapidly changed to 'understood', presumably after a phone call explaining the error in their headline. He had actually said he understood their frustrations but they way they were going about things was wrong.
I was very uninspired by six of the eight finalists’ gardens in this month’s GW, the winner included. However I thought the two London courtyard gardens were lovely.
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You do hear of the horrific cases from there but do you think there's not horrific cases here too? Was what happened to Sarah Everard not horrific too? The point being is that India has a higher conviction rate than the UK. Indeed UK has a very low conviction rate.
For a first World country we have absolutely failed with both rape, sexual assault and domestic murder. Marital rape only got laid out in primary legislation in 2003. Even now 1/3 of over 65s do not think forced sex in a marriage is rape. In a yougov survey. Over all ages it was a quarter. Third thought non consensual sex was not rape if there was no violence. That's a survey of a representative sample in the UK. I do not think we have any high ground on this. We really don't.
I remember a UN survey of "countries where you can do business without paying a bribe"
Only Equatorial Guinee ( remember Mark Thatcher anyone ? ) was lower than India out of 156 countries.
In terms of rape, I should think there are , literally , millions of victims who feel there's no point in even reporting it to the police in the first place
Bear in mind these conviction rates, AIUI, factor in victims that don't come forward among the figures. Unreported cases. No idea how but these things get reported but there's been enough newspaper reports over such reports over the years.