I hope those who need rain got a decent amount this morning... it filled my water butts..
As for Standard Roses, no idea what stocks they're using in Italy Nollie, I think that's where yours is coming from? but ideally the trunk should be thornless and de-eyed... I would just plant in the ground at the level you normally would... if the interstem trunk has not been de-eyed of dormant buds, then you will have to watch for suckers. Sometimes just under the top graft but anywhere along it..
Back in the day David Austin used R. canina interstems and they were thorny and had bud eyes all down them... I was plagued by suckers up and down the trunk.. these days in UK it's more advanced and customer friendly as a different selection of dog rose is used..
Best of luck keeping GdeF to that framework... it looks very nice though..
To the question of rose wantiness, yes…probably it feels on the cusp of spring and we’re all getting impatient. I’m trying to bide my time til the DA announcement, but it’s hard! I’m hoping for a long rose season to make up for last year.
I’m jealous of your rain @Marlorena, still a dustbowl here and all water butts dry so I have been watering much earlier than usual. Many thanks for standard info - it’s coming from France, they seem to produce a lot of standards there, so finger’s crossed they have moved on from canina, that sounds a nightmare. The support is quite big at 1m wide by 2m high so I’m hoping it will keep it going for a few years at least!
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Hi all - I have a query about standard roses and lower graft level. Most advice online says to plant the graft at soil level to avoid suckering, from the trunk, presumably. DA says plant ‘the stem’ 2” below soil level, so basically treat it like a normal bare root. I guess it depends on the type of stock used for the trunks but are they liable to suckering generally?
I had suckers from standard but I think they were from the graft, not the stem. The one in the ground is planted with the graft leveled with the ground, covered with mulch. So it isn't visible but I have easy access.
That definitely sounds like the way to go @edhelka, hiding the graft with mulch so you can see where any suckers come from.
@pitter-patter, the advice from France is to protect anything above ground during frosts. From what I’ve read standards are more vulnerable to extremes of weather and probably more so when young, so that might explain it.
Mine didn’t turn up today, despite crossing the border 2 day's ago. Typical!
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
I’m not buying any because I’ve got no space! But I’ll hopefully have some of my own seedlings growing this year to satisfy the new rose itch...and I do have space for a new DA release if it’s very special!
Lady of the Lake thinks it’s spring, she’s got the most advanced growth of any of the other roses, she is in quite a sheltered spot though and next to a heated house wall.
I meant to get some photos but I’ve been busy repainting the kitchen cupboards.
I’m still testing positive so stuck in the house until work on Monday. I’m definitely on the mend though. Rest of the family are all negative so can go out for some fresh air tomorrow.
Thanks, @Nollie, you’re probably right, though I’ve never protected my standards before. Am I getting this wrong when saying that the root and stem of standard roses are from one rose and the grafts are at the top of the stem? Therefore anything that grows from soil and stem bellow the graft needs removing... I only get a couple of suckers on my standards and they are easy to spot and remove.
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As for Standard Roses, no idea what stocks they're using in Italy Nollie, I think that's where yours is coming from? but ideally the trunk should be thornless and de-eyed... I would just plant in the ground at the level you normally would... if the interstem trunk has not been de-eyed of dormant buds, then you will have to watch for suckers. Sometimes just under the top graft but anywhere along it..
Back in the day David Austin used R. canina interstems and they were thorny and had bud eyes all down them... I was plagued by suckers up and down the trunk.. these days in UK it's more advanced and customer friendly as a different selection of dog rose is used..
Best of luck keeping GdeF to that framework... it looks very nice though..
Until I get a chance to go in garden, I am enjoying all the discussions and photos here.
@pitter-patter, the advice from France is to protect anything above ground during frosts. From what I’ve read standards are more vulnerable to extremes of weather and probably more so when young, so that might explain it.
Mine didn’t turn up today, despite crossing the border 2 day's ago. Typical!
Lady of the Lake thinks it’s spring, she’s got the most advanced growth of any of the other roses, she is in quite a sheltered spot though and next to a heated house wall.
I meant to get some photos but I’ve been busy repainting the kitchen cupboards.
I’m still testing positive so stuck in the house until work on Monday. I’m definitely on the mend though. Rest of the family are all negative so can go out for some fresh air tomorrow.