Another one topic, one interest poster on here for the first time sprouting their own agenda, whom we will never hear from again once they have a few replies from this one!
If no one replied they would go away with their tail between their legs!
Hi Braidman,
thank you for your reply.
An online forum is in place for exactly what you appear to criticise... so a person can post about their interest, in the hope that others respond!?
My “agenda” is simply to raise awareness and to start a dialogue on a topic that many may not know about.
I can certainly see @buttons4breastcancer3hX3Ov5q 's point. Trouble is, you also have to consider how much good the NT does and our green spaces would be much the poorer without them. I've been a NT member for years - I've also done a lot of volunteer work for them. It doesn't mean I condone the hunting shooting brigade tho.
Same here .You can’t throw the baby out with the bath water just think how NT restores beautiful buildings and developers gardens and grassland meadows.Please think again about withdrawing support.Hunting notwithstanding.
I'm all for info sharing. I don't see that the OP is doing harm or ranting. She is very welcome to stay and continue to contribute. It's an open forum - anyone can rock up. That's kind of the point.
this topic isn’t about withdrawing money from the NT or in fact, your membership.
I applaud the NT for a lot of what they do, but in my own opinion, that in no way justifies the killing of an animal in the name of sport, or condones it happening on NT land. For all the good they do in preserving nature, they undone in the environmental damage caused by hunts.
I have some sympathy with the NT though. They rely on the sort of people who support hunting not only for funds but also for volunteers. They could make a stand, but it would cost them dear, not only financially.
Much like the RSPB taking a stand on cats killing wildlife.
Personally I do not rate the RSPB and other single class conservation organisations. Not since I heard what they did to a site in Herefordshire which was a very important hibernate site for key British reptile species. AIUI they bulldozed the site, removed all the discrete hibernation and observation sites that were put in place over a great many years by a local amphibian and reptile ecology group as part of a continuous research and monitoring programme over decades. They trashed it as a habitat and did it when the reptiles were hibernating there. Worst possible time to do it too. Last I heard the view of experts was that the site would probably cease FYI have any reptiles on it in less than 10 years. From a very important reptile habitat site for AIUI reptiles from a much wider area to nothing in perhaps 15 years. All to male it more accessible to visitors and to improve it for a couple of bird specs that AFAIK aren't even on the red list!!!!!
The site I believe was a NT site but the RSPB did the work. I've never given to them since. I no longer trust single type animal conservation charities because there's always a risk that they don't take a balanced view on the ecology of sites they look after. Certainly didn't at the one I know about. BTW I heard about the story from people involved in the monitoring of reptiles at that site with the permission of the landowner (NT) for decades. Of course if you look at RSPBA site there's often talk about protecting bird species from predation by introduced species. In this site the reptiles were not introduced but native species thriving in that particular,uncommon habitat. As native as the bird life there.
Sorry if this sounds like a rant. It's just that people often don't see or hear about the harm done to the less popular, cuddly, photogenic and common types of animals / species. People see conservation charities as only doing good but that's certainly not the truth all the time. I mean who in their right mind would commission a reptile impact survey for a cold month of the year when they're deep underground hibernating???? That's what happened.
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thank you for your reply.
An online forum is in place for exactly what you appear to criticise... so a person can post about their interest, in the hope that others respond!?
My “agenda” is simply to raise awareness and to start a dialogue on a topic that many may not know about.
I've been a NT member for years - I've also done a lot of volunteer work for them. It doesn't mean I condone the hunting shooting brigade tho.
At no point is that what I have suggested. In fact, by being a member of the NT - you are more entitled to have a say on such motions.
this topic isn’t about withdrawing money from the NT or in fact, your membership.
When you don't even know who's in the team
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The site I believe was a NT site but the RSPB did the work. I've never given to them since. I no longer trust single type animal conservation charities because there's always a risk that they don't take a balanced view on the ecology of sites they look after. Certainly didn't at the one I know about. BTW I heard about the story from people involved in the monitoring of reptiles at that site with the permission of the landowner (NT) for decades. Of course if you look at RSPBA site there's often talk about protecting bird species from predation by introduced species. In this site the reptiles were not introduced but native species thriving in that particular,uncommon habitat. As native as the bird life there.
Sorry if this sounds like a rant. It's just that people often don't see or hear about the harm done to the less popular, cuddly, photogenic and common types of animals / species. People see conservation charities as only doing good but that's certainly not the truth all the time. I mean who in their right mind would commission a reptile impact survey for a cold month of the year when they're deep underground hibernating???? That's what happened.