Towing a taker is completely different to driving an artic,  when you go up hills the weight on the back is phenomenal, when you turn corners and bends same thing. i still think thereâs a motive behind this.  Petrol has been delivered for quite a while now,  we donât suddenly run out of drivers. I know, you say itâs be coming in for ages.
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I agree with you @Lyn. Yet I don't believe the government would deliberately leak such a statement - it's the last thing they need right now. Unless of course it's someone trying to bring Boris down.
I still think it's the RHA behind it, the motive being they want to force the government into allowing foreign drivers in again as they are cheaper - cheaper drivers - more profit.
Back in the 70's when there were fuel shortages they re-issued the old war time petrol coupons. Then they enforced a minimum purchase rule which I think was 4 gallons ( remember them?) which caused me a problem as my Fiat 500 only had a 4 gallon tank! The minimum purchase rule would weed out the topper uppers pretty quickly and banning filling anything other than a vehicle fuel tank.
A few people were suggesting that on that radio phone in @steephill. My daughter would have a similar problem though, if it was £30 minumum - it only takes about ÂŁ20 or so to fill her wee car The theory is right though, and would sort out those folk like that ghastly woman I mentioned earlier. Still wouldn't sort her hideous attitude though.Â
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
We had to register with one petrol station,  We could have a poundâs worth the ration books were never used. Fortunately the dispute was solved instead of turning into another war. Â
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@Lizzie27 I believe it was the CEO of the RHA (formerly a VIP at the BBC) who leaked part of report from BP which said they were at two thirds of their storage capacity without the rest of the statement which explained that was their normal position.Â
Thank you for the link @Angelicant. Very informative. yes, re engage our British drivers, not use EU  men on low pay. Times have changed so much,  years ago it was the ultimate job for lad,  they couldnât wait until they were 21. Great pride in doing up their cabs, keeping their lorries spotlessly clean. CB on,  music and off up the road.Â
Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor.Â
@Lizzie27 I believe it was the CEO of the RHA (formerly a VIP at the BBC) who leaked part of report from BP which said they were at two thirds of their storage capacity without the rest of the statement which explained that was their normal position.Â
An interesting read shows a multitude of reasons for the shortage of drivers.
I find this paragraph interesting in the article. It clearly shows there's no appetite for HGV drivers to stay in the business. Its clear HGV drivers have been treated badly and its also clear that Brexit was a contributing factor to the shortage, but not by nearly as much as I originally thought. Thanks for the link its a very interesting read.
"It means European drivers became a vital part of the industry, topping up the workforce and providing elasticity at times of increased demand. But the reliance on overseas labour has long been a source of concern. In July 2016, MPs urged the transport industry to âreduce dependence on foreign driversâ, stating âthe principal responsibility⌠lies with the industryâ.
The situation came to a head during the pandemic following a mass exodus of drivers from the UK workforce. Exclusive ONS data shows total numbers fell from around 304,000 in Q1 2020 to 235,000 in Q2 2021, representing a net loss of 69,000. Logistics UK estimates we are now approximately 90,000 drivers short of where we need to be."
'The power of accurate observation .... is commonly called cynicism by those that have not got it.
and banning filling anything other than a vehicle fuel tank.
The problem with that is that there are genuine reasons for filling jerry cans - OH uses construction machinery which all runs on diesel but he can't drive a digger 15 miles on the roads to fill it up - filling jerry cans are the only option. There was a lady on the news who was filling containers to keep her staff (carers) on the road and she got a load of abuse, apparently.
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i still think thereâs a motive behind this. Â Petrol has been delivered for quite a while now, Â we donât suddenly run out of drivers.Â
I know, you say itâs be coming in for ages.
I still think it's the RHA behind it, the motive being they want to force the government into allowing foreign drivers in again as they are cheaper - cheaper drivers - more profit.
The theory is right though, and would sort out those folk like that ghastly woman I mentioned earlier. Still wouldn't sort her hideous attitude though.Â
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Fortunately the dispute was solved instead of turning into another war. Â
This is the article I was referring to. I hope the link works
https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/supply-chain/the-real-causes-of-the-hgv-driver-shortage-and-why-we-cant-blame-it-all-on-brexit/659841.article
@Lizzie27
I believe it was the CEO of the RHA (formerly a VIP at the BBC) who leaked part of report from BP which said they were at two thirds of their storage capacity without the rest of the statement which explained that was their normal position.Â
yes, re engage our British drivers, not use EU Â men on low pay.Â
Times have changed so much, Â years ago it was the ultimate job for lad, Â they couldnât wait until they were 21.Â
Great pride in doing up their cabs, keeping their lorries spotlessly clean.Â
CB on, Â music and off up the road.Â
Thanks @Angelicant
An interesting read shows a multitude of reasons for the shortage of drivers.
I find this paragraph interesting in the article. It clearly shows there's no appetite for HGV drivers to stay in the business. Its clear HGV drivers have been treated badly and its also clear that Brexit was a contributing factor to the shortage, but not by nearly as much as I originally thought. Thanks for the link its a very interesting read.
"It means European drivers became a vital part of the industry, topping up the workforce and providing elasticity at times of increased demand. But the reliance on overseas labour has long been a source of concern. In July 2016, MPs urged the transport industry to âreduce dependence on foreign driversâ, stating âthe principal responsibility⌠lies with the industryâ.
The situation came to a head during the pandemic following a mass exodus of drivers from the UK workforce. Exclusive ONS data shows total numbers fell from around 304,000 in Q1 2020 to 235,000 in Q2 2021, representing a net loss of 69,000. Logistics UK estimates we are now approximately 90,000 drivers short of where we need to be."
'The power of accurate observation .... is commonly called cynicism by those that have not got it.
George Bernard Shaw'
âIt's still magic even if you know how it's done.âÂ