KT53,she's never collapsed from drinking. The other daughter doesn't drink. They both had AZ and oddly collapsed the 3rd day after. My symptoms started 14 hours after the jabs, hubbies about 4. Oh, the drinking yesterday was because long story short,she did a housing swap, woman she swapped with obviously told a pack of lies. Daughters been there 3 years,had water ingress, countless complaints to HA. Just had rain, coming through living room wall. She's been sleeping on a 2 seater sofa,she's 6ft 1waiting for them to do the bedroom. She knows how to complain,she's Customer service manager for one of the big supermarkets. Used to do the same for TFL in charge of a team of over 200. She's aware that the booster will be different,but not interested. Mind you, I remember how many nurses and medics I worked with smoked,got drunk regularly and an awful lot on my ward were extremely overweight. Her best friend is a sister and nurse practitioner,smokes.
I was fortunate in having nothing worse than a thumping headache after AZ. A couple of paracetamol sorted that. One friend said they felt like they had the worst flu ever for 24 hours and then it cleared as quickly as it appeared. They said if that was a taster of what Covid could do they were happy to have the jab.
Isn't it confirmation bias or something like that? People getting ill after getting flu vaccine and blaming it on the vaccine is as old as the vaccines have been on offer. AIUI the majority of flu like symptom after vaccination for flu were simply they got a virus before the vaccine took affect. Although you can get symptoms and issues but AIUI a lot of those cases were often down to something in the vaccine not the active ingredient.
However I had no symptoms after the first AZ jab but I got a bit cold and hot followed by very tired and a headache. I ended up lying down on my bed and sleeping. That was a Friday afternoon when I often get migraine like symptoms and even without them I'm usually catnspping in the afternoon. I usually shattered due to lack of sleep and long days so my Fridays, day after the second jab, I catnap. I did however attribute it to the jab. I'm easily capable of linking two independent events because that's what Ithink sounds more likely. However, I'm guess nobody will know for sure it was the vaccine. Unless you get the seriously complications of blood clotting,.
BTW it's not just the AZ with issues. Pfizer had some deaths linked to it and serious complications as did modena. The Russian and Chinese ones too. Russian trials in South America got stopped in safety grounds!
Friends who had Pfizer had no effects at all. I did explain it was your immune system kicking in. Normally my old man gets nothing. At 7 years younger,he normally has different flu jab,same one as me this year,and he woke up the following day unwell. A lot of my colleagues at work refused to have it,days it gave you flu. I might add,not one of them had actually had flu,so didn't realize how awful you feel
The girls have the Moderna one due to their age. I believe the symptoms the younger one had are quite common though. I hope older one is ok after she eventually gets it, as she had a panic attack first time round. She offered to do the antibody test after being positive. That didn't go well as she fainted when trying to fill the little doofer up with blood....
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I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
OH and I also had the Astra Zeneca vaccine. Very mild side effects, slight headache, didn’t get very sore arms. First dose, I woke in the night with terrible shivers and teeth chattering, unlike anything I’ve had before, but took a couple of paracetamol and it went away very quickly.
That didn't go well as she fainted when trying to fill the little doofer up with blood....
OH is needle phobic. The prospect of two injections with such a long time between to get worked up about it was his worst nightmare, and there was nothing I could do to help him because I couldn't go with him to distract him at the crucial point (or to carry him out if he fainted). I told him he'd have to own up - tell the nurse about the phobia because they would know the best way to deal with it. In the event, he didn't have to - they sussed him straight away. I guess having so many vaccines back to back, they were very tuned in to people who were wobbling. He's had both jabs and is now facing down the prospect of two injections in one go when our turn for the booster + flu comes around. A blood test would probably have him in a heap on the floor, too.
Watching the news is the worst, constantly showing pictures of people having injections and shoving sticks up their noses. He was a complete wreck. I'm quite proud of him for getting this far, to be honest.
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We both had AZ vaccine with no side effects apart from mild headache. My sister's partner is an extreme needle phobic though, so much so that it took three people to hold him down and he punched the doc, when he had to have an anaesthetic last year. However, my sister talked him through the vaccine jab and although very, very nervous he did have it done and didn't mind the second one so much. We think he might be cured.
I never had problems with needles at all. As a kid I used to watch the nurse put a needle in my hand. Before one surgery the rough sister helping a junior nurse put a canula in kept physically pushing my face away so I couldn't see. Got me annoyed so I kept turning back. You don't shove your hand in a kid's face and push it away no matter what! If one did that to my kid I'd be asking to speak to someone senior to put in a formal complaint and I'd try complaining to the professional body too. But that's decades ago.
More recently I broke my hand badly and needed stitches. Lost the skin on my palm and had a deep crush cut right to the bone and through it too. The doctor stitched me up under local but despite 4 injections I got no anaesthetic effect so felt the needle going in, the needle going through flesh, the needle coming out, the thread being pulled through, the thread being pulled tight, the thread being tied off and the ends being cut. Then repeat 5 times with each time being worse as my stress hormones levels sky rocketed.
That was the first time I couldn't watch a needle going into me! I've given blood about 30 times. Only 5 times after that incident and all five times I felt close to a panic attack. I only stopped giving blood because my son was born and family time took a higher precedence I afraid.
BTW I know syndichad two hour dental surgery with local anaesthetic that didn't work. The dentist refused to believe her and carried on for 2 hours. He used old tech anaesthetic which was known to have the problem of not working at all for some people. She was traumatised so badly she kept breaking down and crying weeks afterwards. She was in pain for two weeks afterwards taking maximum doses of OTC pain relief. Should have had prescription for something I reckon. She got a new dentist after that!
I wonder if your OH had a trauma that made him needle phobic? Might not remember it if it happens when very young but your subconscious remembers.
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However I had no symptoms after the first AZ jab but I got a bit cold and hot followed by very tired and a headache. I ended up lying down on my bed and sleeping. That was a Friday afternoon when I often get migraine like symptoms and even without them I'm usually catnspping in the afternoon. I usually shattered due to lack of sleep and long days so my Fridays, day after the second jab, I catnap. I did however attribute it to the jab. I'm easily capable of linking two independent events because that's what Ithink sounds more likely. However, I'm guess nobody will know for sure it was the vaccine. Unless you get the seriously complications of blood clotting,.
BTW it's not just the AZ with issues. Pfizer had some deaths linked to it and serious complications as did modena. The Russian and Chinese ones too. Russian trials in South America got stopped in safety grounds!
I hope older one is ok after she eventually gets it, as she had a panic attack first time round.
She offered to do the antibody test after being positive. That didn't go well as she fainted when trying to fill the little doofer up with blood....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Watching the news is the worst, constantly showing pictures of people having injections and shoving sticks up their noses. He was a complete wreck. I'm quite proud of him for getting this far, to be honest.
“It's still magic even if you know how it's done.”
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
More recently I broke my hand badly and needed stitches. Lost the skin on my palm and had a deep crush cut right to the bone and through it too. The doctor stitched me up under local but despite 4 injections I got no anaesthetic effect so felt the needle going in, the needle going through flesh, the needle coming out, the thread being pulled through, the thread being pulled tight, the thread being tied off and the ends being cut. Then repeat 5 times with each time being worse as my stress hormones levels sky rocketed.
That was the first time I couldn't watch a needle going into me! I've given blood about 30 times. Only 5 times after that incident and all five times I felt close to a panic attack. I only stopped giving blood because my son was born and family time took a higher precedence I afraid.
BTW I know syndichad two hour dental surgery with local anaesthetic that didn't work. The dentist refused to believe her and carried on for 2 hours. He used old tech anaesthetic which was known to have the problem of not working at all for some people. She was traumatised so badly she kept breaking down and crying weeks afterwards. She was in pain for two weeks afterwards taking maximum doses of OTC pain relief. Should have had prescription for something I reckon. She got a new dentist after that!
I wonder if your OH had a trauma that made him needle phobic? Might not remember it if it happens when very young but your subconscious remembers.