...but travel is now the old hat bit - haven't you noticed? Progress is moving so fast, that the 'net' takes you where you want to be in nano seconds. The point is is that Shaun isn't realising what the implications of the changes are. Shaun never does. If Shaun did, we wouldn't have had mountains of horse poo, replaced with an even worse pollutant. Shaun always looks back and judges the past, but hardly ever looks to the future. We need a Hari Seldon.
Who thought, when a horse was a status symbol of the rich, that the car that had more horse power than a horse, would be ubiquitous amongst the richest poor? Replace a few hundred thousand horses, with millions, billions of cars. That travel, where people (read Shaun) never left their home environs, is now accepted to the extent of the rush hours on any modern country's towns and cities? That Australia would be less than a day away. My grandad was bounded by the Channel one side, the Downs the other and I don't think ever saw anything (apart from with the army) outside of Brighton, let alone Sussex. His feet and a cart were his limit. My mum used to fetch the bucket for when the milk was delivered by the horse and cart - the roses needed a feed. That's 90 years ago. Only 90.
Pedantic hat on for a minute. Catalan situation in Spain is equivalent to Scottish independence. Brexit would be equivalent to Spain leaving the EU.
Stating the obvious but the pedantry charter means I must correct the last sentence in kili's second paragraph. I mean no offence but it had to be done.
PS don't tell the Little Scotlanders in the SNP about your view of nationalism. Certainly not online on some non political websites I frequent. There's a strong Scottish nationalist element online who jump at anyone questioning Scottish independence.
If nationalism is wrong, what about devolution? Division into nations I assume is wrong but what about devolving political decisions of state down to smaller regions, is that considered right or wrong? Localism vs whatever you'd call large population sized decision making.
Yeah its pedantic NorthernJoe and your wrong its simply not the same situation as Scotland. Catalonia hasn't been an independent country since 1496. If you want to go down that route we could start with regions in England wanting independence such as Cornwall, just not the same situation
'The power of accurate observation .... is commonly called cynicism by those that have not got it.
...ah yes, but you're from Norfolk so it's difficult to factor in the Brigadoon like time warp that occurs in your area...wattle and daub I say to you...
Sussex for the Saxons I say...oops, they (well, roughly them) got it back in the 18th century...forgot about that. Maybe we should go back to the Atrebates...but who was there before them...and before them...and...
We all just wander around the globe anyway, trying our best just to survive and have a better life eh? Or else we end up like Trump who builds walls to keep people 'orf his green grass, forgetting that he's an immigrant that nicked that green grass from someone else...who probably nicked it from someone else.
Pedantic hat on for a minute. Catalan situation in Spain is equivalent to Scottish independence. Brexit would be equivalent to Spain leaving the EU.
Stating the obvious but the pedantry charter means I must correct the last sentence in kili's second paragraph. I mean no offence but it had to be done.
PS don't tell the Little Scotlanders in the SNP about your view of nationalism. Certainly not online on some non political websites I frequent. There's a strong Scottish nationalist element online who jump at anyone questioning Scottish independence.
If nationalism is wrong, what about devolution? Division into nations I assume is wrong but what about devolving political decisions of state down to smaller regions, is that considered right or wrong? Localism vs whatever you'd call large population sized decision making.
Yeah its pedantic NorthernJoe and your wrong its simply not the same situation as Scotland. Catalonia hasn't been an independent country since 1496. If you want to go down that route we could start with regions in England wanting independence such as Cornwall, just not the same situation
Scotland hasn't been independant since 1707, although it could legitimately be argued that in fact it is England which hasn't been independant since that date as a Scottish king became king of England. When you get to the stage of many hundreds of years since being independant I'm not sure how much difference a couple of hundred years makes to the legitimacy of the argument.
My concern for Scotland is that they simply can't afford to be a truly independant country. They would need to create their own armed forces, own currency and internal economy. I fear the reality is they would join the EU and have far less control over their own destiny than by staying within the UK. More self determination for all 4 countries would be no bad thing, but the more you devolve control, the more expensive and difficult it becomes due to added layers of government.
I think London should be independent and Londoncentric and the rest of you can get on with it. Shame it didn't happen before the referendum. I don't think we make an awful lot of sausages so Bxxxxt wouldn't have been a problem.
Pedantic hat on for a minute. Catalan situation in Spain is equivalent to Scottish independence. Brexit would be equivalent to Spain leaving the EU.
Stating the obvious but the pedantry charter means I must correct the last sentence in kili's second paragraph. I mean no offence but it had to be done.
PS don't tell the Little Scotlanders in the SNP about your view of nationalism. Certainly not online on some non political websites I frequent. There's a strong Scottish nationalist element online who jump at anyone questioning Scottish independence.
If nationalism is wrong, what about devolution? Division into nations I assume is wrong but what about devolving political decisions of state down to smaller regions, is that considered right or wrong? Localism vs whatever you'd call large population sized decision making.
Yeah its pedantic NorthernJoe and your wrong its simply not the same situation as Scotland. Catalonia hasn't been an independent country since 1496. If you want to go down that route we could start with regions in England wanting independence such as Cornwall, just not the same situation
Scotland hasn't been independant since 1707, although it could legitimately be argued that in fact it is England which hasn't been independant since that date as a Scottish king became king of England. When you get to the stage of many hundreds of years since being independant I'm not sure how much difference a couple of hundred years makes to the legitimacy of the argument.
My concern for Scotland is that they simply can't afford to be a truly independant country. They would need to create their own armed forces, own currency and internal economy. I fear the reality is they would join the EU and have far less control over their own destiny than by staying within the UK. More self determination for all 4 countries would be no bad thing, but the more you devolve control, the more expensive and difficult it becomes due to added layers of government.
Scotland has always been independent. Being governed by an occupying force does not mean its not independant just occupied and incorporated into the occupying forces realm. Which is not the same as Catalonia being amalgamated into Spain by the marriage of King Ferdinand of Aragon and Queen Isabella of Castille in 1496.
As for whether Scotland can afford to remove the shackles that forced them into the Union that's a matter for the Scottish people to decide. Any mistakes they make will at least be their own.
'The power of accurate observation .... is commonly called cynicism by those that have not got it.
I think London should be independent and Londoncentric and the rest of you can get on with it. Shame it didn't happen before the referendum. I don't think we make an awful lot of sausages so Bxxxxt wouldn't have been a problem.
Lol... B3 I agree with you. I went there once and now only pass through Gatwick or Heathrow on my way to other destinations. There's just to many people for my liking give me the peace and quite of a rural location anyday.
'The power of accurate observation .... is commonly called cynicism by those that have not got it.
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Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Yeah its pedantic NorthernJoe and your wrong its simply not the same situation as Scotland.
Catalonia hasn't been an independent country since 1496. If you want to go down that route we could start with regions in England wanting independence such as Cornwall, just not the same situation
'The power of accurate observation .... is commonly called cynicism by those that have not got it.
George Bernard Shaw'
Yeah bang on Allotment Boy Imagine sums it up perfectly.
'The power of accurate observation .... is commonly called cynicism by those that have not got it.
George Bernard Shaw'
Scotland has always been independent. Being governed by an occupying force does not mean its not independant just occupied and incorporated into the occupying forces realm.
Which is not the same as Catalonia being amalgamated into Spain by the marriage of King Ferdinand of Aragon and Queen Isabella of Castille in 1496.
As for whether Scotland can afford to remove the shackles that forced them into the Union that's a matter for the Scottish people to decide. Any mistakes they make will at least be their own.
'The power of accurate observation .... is commonly called cynicism by those that have not got it.
George Bernard Shaw'
Lol... B3 I agree with you. I went there once and now only pass through Gatwick or Heathrow on my way to other destinations. There's just to many people for my liking give me the peace and quite of a rural location anyday.
'The power of accurate observation .... is commonly called cynicism by those that have not got it.
George Bernard Shaw'