Why does your neighbour keep agreeing to your suggestions then changing her mind? She sounds a PITA.
Maybe at the time of asking she feels under pressure to agree, doesn't want to be 'difficult' and finds it hard to say no ....... and then takes time and reflects and plucks up a bit of courage to say how she actually feels.
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I have emailed the landlord but I think he will say we both need to be agreeable.
It is the landlord's property ... it is up to him/her to make a final decision and then you have two choices ... To be honest, I would do absolutely nothing without the landlord's agreement in writing ... these things can come back to bite you.
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A chain link boundary sounds horrible. You're a tenant, so definitely just approach your landlord about it. Does the same landlord own both properties?
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I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
The boundary fence is now the landlords problem if you take it out with his permission and put up a very expensive but life limited fence it becomes yours and your neighbours problem to maintain it/replace it at your own expense, its kind of like when a company leases a building and makes changes to it to suit their business but when they leave they have to return the building back to the condition it was in before they moved in. Don't fall out over this and please don't let it worry you, if you have a fence made to fit your side of the boundary they could make it miss the concrete bases already in the ground and get a good hole for the new posts.
The entertainment/outdoor kitchen could be your bargaining chip.
Did they need the landlord’s permission to install it? If yes, then the landlord seems reasonably laissez faire and would probably be amenable to you putting up a fence. Or maybe the landlord doesn’t know about it. If you suspect as much, casually mention when saying you want his written permission to install the fence that your reason for the installation is to give you privacy from next door’s outside kitchen.
I would guess the neighbours did not consult you about this barbecue area. It’s a neighbourly thing to do but there is no obligation. Assuming they did not, you must tell them that, free as they are to enjoy their own garden, you are equally free to give yourself privacy in yours. On that basis, you will be erecting a fence. If they continue to object to the removal of the chain link fence tell them that the close boarded fence will be erected on your land and ask the fencing contractors to install the posts between the chain link posts. Completing the two ends could be a problem but, if it is not possible to put in end posts right at the extremities, thorny shrubs and plastic netting could serve.
Thanks everyone for your thoughts and suggestions.
I have mentioned in my email to the landlord about the entertainment area and lack of privacy etc. If I could put a fence up without the need to take out the chain link I would, I certainly don't want this issue. The space just isn't there unless I demolish my pond of 20 years and as Ben rightly says that leaves issues either end.
It was my neighbours suggestion to get a new fence, not mine. Now she has about turned. I think there is more to it than I know. At no point have I put any pressure on her, quite the opposite in fact.
There is no accounting for the oddness of human behaviour is there? The only thing you can do is continue to pursue it with/get permission to replace the fence from your landlord - assuming it is his fence and not the next-door’s landlords - whilst trying to gently tease out of your neighbour what she is so concerned about to make her change her mind.
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If it was me I'd probably take down the falling-down fence (don't want it to fall/blow down and damage anything) and brazen it out, hoping that the neighbour will change her mind again when she has no privacy, but it sounds as if that might be too stressful for you. If you wanted to try it, you could maybe get one of those sail things or a big umbrella to shield your sitting area.
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Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
To be honest, I would do absolutely nothing without the landlord's agreement in writing ... these things can come back to bite you.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Does the same landlord own both properties?
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Did they need the landlord’s permission to install it? If yes, then the landlord seems reasonably laissez faire and would probably be amenable to you putting up a fence. Or maybe the landlord doesn’t know about it. If you suspect as much, casually mention when saying you want his written permission to install the fence that your reason for the installation is to give you privacy from next door’s outside kitchen.
I would guess the neighbours did not consult you about this barbecue area. It’s a neighbourly thing to do but there is no obligation. Assuming they did not, you must tell them that, free as they are to enjoy their own garden, you are equally free to give yourself privacy in yours. On that basis, you will be erecting a fence. If they continue to object to the removal of the chain link fence tell them that the close boarded fence will be erected on your land and ask the fencing contractors to install the posts between the chain link posts. Completing the two ends could be a problem but, if it is not possible to put in end posts right at the extremities, thorny shrubs and plastic netting could serve.
I have mentioned in my email to the landlord about the entertainment area and lack of privacy etc.
If I could put a fence up without the need to take out the chain link I would, I certainly don't want this issue. The space just isn't there unless I demolish my pond of 20 years and as Ben rightly says that leaves issues either end.
It was my neighbours suggestion to get a new fence, not mine. Now she has about turned. I think there is more to it than I know. At no point have I put any pressure on her, quite the opposite in fact.
Unfortunately communications between us have broken down.