@cooldoc ..thanks.. I remember you saying now.. they have some nice roses too so I shall bare it in mind.. but I'm reluctant to chance it again now until I know a bit more.. let me see if I get a refund or not..
@celcius_kkw commiserations Adrian... hope you've managed to get your roses safely tucked up with the gales still going on.. I have to admit the tale of your balcony exploits was, shall I say, serio-comic.. I got some rain eventually...
@Nollie your La Rose de Molinard is gorgeous! My only reservation about this rose is that it’s rather big.
What would you say is the strongest scented rose (of any kind of scent)?
I probably sound a bit obsessed about scent.. just on my holiday to Somerset last summer I came across this most amazing smelling rose. You could smell it from a meter away and it took me some time to figure out where the scent is coming from because it was literally a single flower on top of a single stem. I never thought a single flower could emit such powerful aroma. The photo of that rose:
Great roses @Nollie! @Marlorena and all, I’ve been worried about my Wollerton Old Hall for a couple of weeks now, having read on this forum about chlorotic leaves and also glyphosate toxicity.
it was planted in 2019 and never had any issues before. This year, there are a couple of places with ‘normal’ shaped leaves though not fully healthy looking (first photo below) and the majority, say 90%, of the new growth has been spindly, with narrow leaves that are yellow with green veins and reddish margins (second photo below). I don’t have Weedol or any weed killers, and don’t think the near neighbours have been spraying — they don’t seem to do much gardening — but wonder if it drifted in from somewhere else.
It’s had manure compost (Westland Gro-sure) and Empathy after plant rose food in March plus bark mulch on top, and been well watered plus given liquid seaweed feed a couple of times in April. Will sequestered iron help? Should I prune off all the affected shoots when the weather warms up, but that would mean removing practically all the leaves? Any advice would be great, thank you.
@Athelas I think sequestered iron tonic (which includes magnesium) is probably worth a try.. Last year a few people that I know have ended up with bad batches of compost that were contaminated with weed killer.. needless to say most of their plants died as a result.. fingers crossed this isn’t the case with yours but those spindly leaves look most unhealthy..
@Oliya I’m a great perfume junkie too.. my personal favourites are Boscobel, Lady Emm Hamilton and Gertrude Jekyll. Another one of my favourites has been ID’s as Sunsprite - a Kordes floribunda, which has a perfectly refreshing sweet fruity scent.
@ma@Marlorena It has been blowing a Gale through the night.. still going on now according to my phone (I’m at work) - I nipped out onto the balcony this morning and was absolutely devastated at what I saw.. my Etoile that was growing so beautifully has been utterly destroyed by the wind.. broken branches everywhere.. main canes’ growing tips severed.. it literally looks like someone who’s just escaped from a war zone.. same thing happened to my Claire Austin as well which was also in that same spot..
I will share some photos when I get home this evening..
On a slightly more positive note, at least my new rugosa seems unaffected and my three ‘suitable for windy area’ DAs also seem to be surviving well..
It’s the 8ft gap garden products traditional obelisk in antique black @Marlorena, really sturdy for the price.
@Oliya, RdeM doesn’t take up much ground space, only vertical, but a shorter rose with an allegedly similar intense fragrance is one given in the UK the rather unprepossessing name of The Anniversary Rose, so maybe look at that? Alternatively, someone may be able to ID the rose in your photo, M, probably!
The trouble is, my most fragrant rose will be someone else’s ‘meh’. I don’t have a great sense of smell so for a rose to knock me out it has to be strong, and RdeM and Gertrude Jekyll (classic rose scent) are my top two, closely followed by Lady Emma Hamilton for another citrussy scent. There are hundreds of different organic compounds that make up the fragrance a rose emits and our noses do detect scent differently and to varying degrees, further depending on growing conditions, heat, even wind direction. You really have to sniff for yourself! For a really strong, wafting scent, don’t look to roses - Jasmine, Honeysuckle and lots of flowering shrubs are far more intense. To me.
@Altheas that looks a little more than just a rose languishing in bad weather or normal chlorosis, the second photo looks chemical to me - fertiliser overdose or weedkiller. See what others say...
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
@celcius_kkw, oh I’m so sorry to hear that, how devastating. Strong winds here yesterday, lots of foliage on the ground and a long cane of Golden Celebration snapped off, but most escaped unscathed.
@Altheas, another thought, maybe you should first try flushing the rose with gallons and gallons of water for a few days, in case it is contaminated compost or something else nasty, then try dosing with the sequestered iron/magnesium celcius suggests, if and when it perks up? I think it needs the rose equivalent of chicken broth (water) before you feed it gourmet steak!
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
@Nollie@celcius_kkw thank you for your suggestions. My wish list is getting longer and longer! I probably should first figure out where in the garden I want my roses. Hopefully that will help me to decide, which one to get...
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..thanks.. I remember you saying now.. they have some nice roses too so I shall bare it in mind.. but I'm reluctant to chance it again now until I know a bit more.. let me see if I get a refund or not..
commiserations Adrian... hope you've managed to get your roses safely tucked up with the gales still going on.. I have to admit the tale of your balcony exploits was, shall I say, serio-comic..
I got some rain eventually...
What would you say is the strongest scented rose (of any kind of scent)?
I probably sound a bit obsessed about scent.. just on my holiday to Somerset last summer I came across this most amazing smelling rose. You could smell it from a meter away and it took me some time to figure out where the scent is coming from because it was literally a single flower on top of a single stem. I never thought a single flower could emit such powerful aroma. The photo of that rose:
it was planted in 2019 and never had any issues before. This year, there are a couple of places with ‘normal’ shaped leaves though not fully healthy looking (first photo below) and the majority, say 90%, of the new growth has been spindly, with narrow leaves that are yellow with green veins and reddish margins (second photo below). I don’t have Weedol or any weed killers, and don’t think the near neighbours have been spraying — they don’t seem to do much gardening — but wonder if it drifted in from somewhere else.
It’s had manure compost (Westland Gro-sure) and Empathy after plant rose food in March plus bark mulch on top, and been well watered plus given liquid seaweed feed a couple of times in April. Will sequestered iron help? Should I prune off all the affected shoots when the weather warms up, but that would mean removing practically all the leaves? Any advice would be great, thank you.
@Oliya I’m a great perfume junkie too.. my personal favourites are Boscobel, Lady Emm Hamilton and Gertrude Jekyll. Another one of my favourites has been ID’s as Sunsprite - a Kordes floribunda, which has a perfectly refreshing sweet fruity scent.
I will share some photos when I get home this evening..
On a slightly more positive note, at least my new rugosa seems unaffected and my three ‘suitable for windy area’ DAs also seem to be surviving well..
@Oliya, RdeM doesn’t take up much ground space, only vertical, but a shorter rose with an allegedly similar intense fragrance is one given in the UK the rather unprepossessing name of The Anniversary Rose, so maybe look at that? Alternatively, someone may be able to ID the rose in your photo, M, probably!
The trouble is, my most fragrant rose will be someone else’s ‘meh’. I don’t have a great sense of smell so for a rose to knock me out it has to be strong, and RdeM and Gertrude Jekyll (classic rose scent) are my top two, closely followed by Lady Emma Hamilton for another citrussy scent. There are hundreds of different organic compounds that make up the fragrance a rose emits and our noses do detect scent differently and to varying degrees, further depending on growing conditions, heat, even wind direction. You really have to sniff for yourself! For a really strong, wafting scent, don’t look to roses - Jasmine, Honeysuckle and lots of flowering shrubs are far more intense. To me.
@Altheas that looks a little more than just a rose languishing in bad weather or normal chlorosis, the second photo looks chemical to me - fertiliser overdose or weedkiller. See what others say...
@Altheas, another thought, maybe you should first try flushing the rose with gallons and gallons of water for a few days, in case it is contaminated compost or something else nasty, then try dosing with the sequestered iron/magnesium celcius suggests, if and when it perks up? I think it needs the rose equivalent of chicken broth (water) before you feed it gourmet steak!