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Are scissors sharper than secateurs?

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  • quwa475 said:
    Hi everyone,

    Is it true that the majority of secateurs have a rounded tip and thus aren't particularly sharp? I'm from the UK and it seems you don't have to be 18 to buy secateurs unlike some scissors? I'm just curious.

    Cheers
    The law says:

    Section 141A of the Criminal Justice Act 1988 makes it an offence to sell or let or hire to a person under 18 years:

    • any knife, knife blade or razor blade
    • any axe
    • any other article which has a blade or which is sharply pointed and which is made or adapted for use for causing injury to the person
    Both scissors and bladed gardening tools are covered by the legislation and would be subject to appropriate age checks before sale. The law doesn't recognise a sharp point as defining a blade so any tool with a cutting edge is covered by the above. Similarly it's also an offense to carry bladed articles in public (subject to some exemptions) so you can be arrested for having scissors or secateurs without good reason. You can thank scaremongering institutions like The Daily Mail for landing us with that. :|

    Amazon and Wilko disagree
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    They would.  They're out to sell things and make profits.

    Have to say that most "health and safety" is common sense, a commodity in which you seem to be lacking.   
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    quwa475 said:
    Amazon and Wilko disagree
    No they don't.



    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • quwa475 said:
    Amazon and Wilko disagree
    No they don't.



    Check Wolf and Felco models on Amazon. My store sells them both without any restrictions.
  • Pauline 7Pauline 7 Posts: 2,246
    quwa475 said:
    Hi everyone,

    Is it true that the majority of secateurs have a rounded tip and thus aren't particularly sharp? I'm from the UK and it seems you don't have to be 18 to buy secateurs unlike some scissors? I'm just curious.

    Cheers
    The law says:

    Section 141A of the Criminal Justice Act 1988 makes it an offence to sell or let or hire to a person under 18 years:

    • any knife, knife blade or razor blade
    • any axe
    • any other article which has a blade or which is sharply pointed and which is made or adapted for use for causing injury to the person
    Both scissors and bladed gardening tools are covered by the legislation and would be subject to appropriate age checks before sale. The law doesn't recognise a sharp point as defining a blade so any tool with a cutting edge is covered by the above. Similarly it's also an offense to carry bladed articles in public (subject to some exemptions) so you can be arrested for having scissors or secateurs without good reason. You can thank scaremongering institutions like The Daily Mail for landing us with that. :|

    I was challenged about my age when I bought a packet of plastic knives, I am 62 years old next week.  I was, also, quite chuffed. 
    West Yorkshire
  • Pauline 7Pauline 7 Posts: 2,246
    quwa475 said:
    quwa475 said:
    Amazon and Wilko disagree
    No they don't.



    Check Wolf and Felco models on Amazon. My store sells them both without any restrictions.
    Then they are breaking the law. 
    West Yorkshire
  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    quwa475 said:
    Check Wolf and Felco models on Amazon. My store sells them both without any restrictions.
    You mean through 3rd party sellers? You might want to read the listing guidelines for sellers but Amazon etc are usually keen to put the onus for age checks onto the seller and not themselves as the marketplace. Sellers are supposed to use age verification delivery services as a minimum and I think those work on a challenge 25 basis. A few years ago a minor bought a knife on Amazon and used it to kill someone so you can imagine they now try and keep on the right side of the law, although with as minimal effort as possible admittedly.
    What store do you work for? I can probably arrange a trading standards sting if you're interested? :) 

    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • Balgay.HillBalgay.Hill Posts: 1,089
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  • quwa475 said:
    Check Wolf and Felco models on Amazon. My store sells them both without any restrictions.
    You mean through 3rd party sellers? You might want to read the listing guidelines for sellers but Amazon etc are usually keen to put the onus for age checks onto the seller and not themselves as the marketplace. Sellers are supposed to use age verification delivery services as a minimum and I think those work on a challenge 25 basis. A few years ago a minor bought a knife on Amazon and used it to kill someone so you can imagine they now try and keep on the right side of the law, although with as minimal effort as possible admittedly.
    What store do you work for? I can probably arrange a trading standards sting if you're interested? :) 

    Felco can be bought from Amazon by minors.
  • The initial question is that are secateurs less sharp in the context of tools?
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