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  • strelitzia32strelitzia32 Posts: 758
    edited September 2020
    It's a negotiation, people. Relax. Both sides are following age old principles of negotiation, such as Best Alternative. It's absolutely right that the government uses every card they have, because the EU will. 

    Or, having complained that Theresa May capitulated to too many demands, is the complaint that Boris isn't capitulating to enough demands? This is 3 little bears...

    As I've said before, this will sort itself out because it has to, there is no other economic choice for either side. I for one am quite happy that the UK is using every option and tactic in the bag.

    As for comparing it to a jewellery theft et al, it's worth noting that countries break international law all the time. It's not as big a deal as you may think. Here's an example from this year where Germany broke the law and refused to submit to the European Court of Justice. The topic is dry but it's an interesting read:

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-german-courts-have-just-made-brexit-talks-easier

    However the uniquely British style of self-flagellation to the point of self-detriment continues. Having complained about negotiating tactics and the possibility of a technical breach of law (not happened yet, and we're not talking state sponsored murder in a banana republic here), no doubt the next complaint will be "now that you did what we demanded, why did you achieve such a poor deal"...

    Negotiating 101, quite clearly.

  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    Someone in Ilfracombe asking for a Covid test  was told
    "go to Swansea, it's 30 miles from you " 
    By air, yes, by road it's nearer 200.

    Devon.
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    Well just to balance things up a bit, and no, I am not intending to debate this, I believe Tony Blair was the best PM during my adult life time.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    punkdoc said:
    Well just to balance things up a bit, and no, I am not intending to debate this, I believe Tony Blair was the best PM during my adult life time.
    Least bad?

    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    edited September 2020
    What seems particularly odd with the latest negotiation bust up is that Boris signed the agreement he is now seeking to break.  Clearly the legal experts behind the agreement messed up big time somewhere along the line.

    Even for an MP, Priti Patel comes across as particularly arrogant.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    edited September 2020
    Along with stratospheric levels of self-esteem, she has the complete respect and loyalty of her staff😒. 
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    What can we do about any of it, go on a shoulder to shoulder rally in London?
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    Lyn said:
    What can we do about any of it, go on a shoulder to shoulder rally in London?
    Vote for someone else
    Devon.
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    Thin sure that nice mr Corbyn and his mad brother would have run the country so much better. 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    Lyn said:
    Thin sure that nice mr Corbyn and his mad brother would have run the country so much better. 

    That is a truly terrifying thought.  Few men make Boris seem totally normal and competent but that pair do.
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